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 Dok.Gonzo's Blue Rhino (bag seed) DWC with LED

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Hydroponic DWC. Hydroton with no support medium (aka rockwool, rapid rooters)

Size of Grow Area and number of plants:

1.2 x 1.2 x 2.1 Meter (4x4x7 feet)
  Basement Tent Flowering 5 plants

Lighting:

Seedling: 108 watt T5 LED's with 5500k white and 460nm blue

Vegetative: Mars II 900 (~340 watt wall draw) and 2x Mars Cree COB (~120 watt wall draw each)

Flowering: Budget LED 3+ red spec 3000k 500 watt wall draw

Extraction:

Passive intact with a 6 inch Carbon filter and Inline Fan ~ 450 CFM

Pot Sizes:

x2 Home made ~ 10 gallon Sterlite bins housing two plants each

one plant in a standard 5 gallon DWC bucket

all 6 inch netpots with hydroton.

Nutrients:

Standard General Hydroponics flora series Trio

Supplemented with Armor Si (silica), CalMag, Diamond nectar (humic acids), Rapidstart, and occasional Great White.

Other Equipment:

PH / EC : Hanna instruments combo meter

Pawfly 7w air pump with 5 airstones

two simple non oscillating clip fans

cheapo Vivosun dehumidifier

Levoit Humidifier

Plan for the grow:

The plan was initially to see how well germinated seeds can do with just a neoprene collar in DWC without any growing medium. Essentially in my cloner.

also i wanted to delay transplanting to the veg room for two of the six started in order to see how well they catch up with the four that were transplanted weeks earlier. oh and one extra to put into soil for my mommy dearest 😛 other than that, no real plan for this one.

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here is the cloner where i started all 6 seeds after germination. this was taken a week after i transplanted 4 into my veg tent. 2 are still there. one for a planned delayed transplant and the weaker for my mom to grow for fun.

i was curious as to how a more developed "root ball" handles being transplanted into a netpot that is shallower than its length. i figured since it would have to then develop a new ball past the netpot it might take some time to recover. its definatly not as hearty as the others, but its seemed to recover very well.

it did have an effect on its body shape tho. its thinner but ever so slightly taller. the first four transplanted are thiiiiiiiicccccccc AF

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here we have the two that were more vigorous in one. less vigorous in the other. there were taken the same day as the cloner pic in the last post. about 15 days i think, after transplant. you can see the difference in the plants are pretty staggering. the other just couldnt develop as big a root ball in the cloner i guess. the heat may have stunted the cloner ones a little as its more hot and humid in there.

 

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this is just a small over view of the setup. the poor little plant in the center is a clone ive been abusing in soil... just for fun? 😛

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@dok-gonzo Looking good and healthy

 

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@twisted1 thanks. the two on the left got crazy indica on me. they had fan leaves as big as itself. fucking crazy thick stems on them too, guessing its genetic with the help of the light.

 

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these are taken 10 days after the last shots.

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they ended up getting crazy big leaves. was a shame to have to cut em off but they were rediculous. choking out the whole plant with just two leaves lol.

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decided to test a quick manifold on one. never tried it before.also just curious to see how its recovery was.

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restocked my daily medication. ~40mg each with MCT oil.... about 280 of them lol

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and some cute pets for you to enjoy. meet Big Burd and Kitty Gurr

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here we have the original 4 with the delayed transplant from the cloner in the back center. picture was taken just short of two weeks from the last shots.

theyre basically all done vegging for my taste (6-7 week from seed). you can see my mothers delayed transplant (like 5 weeks) is in the middle center getting some strengthening light before i switch the other five to flower. this is also just before i lollipop them to prepare for the flip. i usualy defoliate in two or three stages as too now super stress them out

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@dok-gonzo Love it, Thats a Jungle you got there

 

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now we are up to date...

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 flipped em into flowering... new flower light came on monday and im excited to see what it can do. it has UVA which im curious to see the results of.

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gently cleaned up their lower end while trying to not damage pre-flowers and got the scrog set up for them to stretch into. showtime!

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The grow looks awesome mang, very clean. Lookin forward to seeing some bud!

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Your grow is always so together and tight man, love it. The ladies sure look happy. Great job!

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@monkeydo

Good to see you man, hope you're all good mate 

 

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@monkeydo Smile thanks for the kindness

 

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Very nice work Dok!! Nice tidy grow room, and nice tidy plants. Lovely to see

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Looking awesome 

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heres a shot one week into flip. pistils already showing on 4 of the 5. one i still cant tell yet but im only squinting and its the one in the hardest to reach corner (figures itll be the hardest to cull lol)

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 last week i defoliated the three heavily and moved them around the scrog. from left to back and right, 1 2 and 3 were cleaned up and the 4 and 5 were not. got a little delay on the other two and decided it would be a good shot for the newbies out there who are hesitant to defoliate indoors. if its your first time it can be intimidating cutting off all those fan leaves. many people online will say leave all of them but i would argue thats for outdoor plants (they need all the backup they can get, and the sun can penetrate better than any light man can make)

now i cant attest for soil... if youre doing hydroponic, and you have a solid root mass downstairs, they tend to recover without any stunting. i clean off mostly all the big fan leaves as you can see they look quite sad.... and im sure they are, being man handled and bent around like that lol 😛

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but you can also see that in just a few days, they can fully recover and keep that train a-rollin!

keep in mind this is basicaly at the start of the stretch so theyll have plenty of time still to grow out. (when i do it again at like the 3 or 4 week mark)

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Nice mate, that will fill over the next week for sure! 

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21st of Feb

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that moment when you realize you forgot you're growing from bag seed and its likely, though not always, not feminized seed.

RIP. you were doing so well... 

also it was sharing a tub with another, which isnt a problem when female because you wouldn't have to cull. the roots are so intertwined i couldn't ever get them apart without cutting.

just hoping it doesn't rot and die 😛 probably should have considered that before the chop

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now they've been rearranged for good light coverage.

sad day that day

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@dok-gonzo

Everything will be alright mate, them plants will fill that space. 

For the roots, add some Rhizotonic to the rez, that'll help break down the roots and re feed it back to the plants. 

Keep the air stone going strong!!! As long as air keeps getting to the roots, good bacteria will grow. If the air stop, bad bacteria will grow. Time like these your airstone is important 

 

 

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@macky i also feel like since the roots are all fine, and its getting air and nutes it should just grow out of the stump like the tree in my yard lol

 

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 about a week later. all re-scrogged up and about done their puny indica stretch lol

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ones getting a bit of purple in the pistils. im hoping it shows off

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