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I have been using Neem oil and its pretty good but still need to up keep and manually  pick off earwigs seem to always find 1 or 2 

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I am worried about the flower stage after reading Neem will ruin taste if used in the last 3 weeks if that's correct what else is there? 

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Also I was reading the process of bud washing and wonder if anyone does? I didn't know you could but might try it and wondered if I can use the Neem longer into flower stage if it can be washed off? Or is it absorbed?

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I don't use neem oil, have heard it can ruin the taste and cause headaches if too much residue is leftover.

I do bud wash all my outdoor.  Mostly to get all the dirt, bug poo, and bugs out of the buds.  After doing it once and seeing everything that's leftover in the wash I will never not wash outdoor buds.

Either way I wouldn't push the neem treatment very far into flower.  Hope this was some help

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Yes I heard bud washing sends ya into shock when you see the left over wash water. 

Shall be mindful of neem oil as I flip soon to 12 12. Thanks for the tips. 

So what does everyone else do to combat bugs during flower? I heard bugs are more attracted during veg stage but don't know if that's true. 

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@bandit I'm currently dealing with (god damned motha 🤬ing) spider mites in late flower.  The plants are seeded (on purpose) but still would like to make some hash out of the leftover material.  So I'm not spraying anything on the buds or sugar leaves unless there is no other option.

 I'm trying the "natural" method but haven't had much success in the past.  I'm using cinnamon in the soil and peppermint/rosemary essential oil wax cubes (rubbed on the lower stalk and as aroma therapy).  These all really only apply to spider mites as a deterrent (not solution) but also can have added benefits (cinnamon will help prevent dampening off, ect.).  Should mention to be careful as some essential oils might attract other pests.

🖖 good luck man 🌱💚

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Yes I want to do a hash run at the end too so all natural ideas appreciated thx 

I guess you can't wash seeded buds huh 

Bugs are a frustrating situation but neem has really helped mine while in veg. Shall be doing more research on the aroma ideas and get some stock ready

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@bandit you can definitely wash seeded buds but could effect the germ rate of seeds so depends on your purpose.  If I didn't want to make hash I'd spray whatever chemicals that wouldn't leach into the seeds.  Seeing as I would like a little something on the side I don't want anything on/in the buds/leaves.

The term "wash" is a little tricky.  You wash your fruits and veggies and they are 100% fine to EAT but some pesticides are horrible when SMOKED even after "washing" (ie a little neem is fine to eat, not so great to smoke).  

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@grower-urban Noted thx Thumbs Up  

I did not realise you could wash buds till recently or at least it never occurred to me as a none grower until now. Thanks for clarification on washing seeded buds. 

I will back off on the neem directly too. 

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What kind of pest are you trying to control?
If you are growing photoperiod and it is early in flower you should have time to use organic pest control. For example nematodes for controlling thrips and fungus knats.

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Thx for posting i heard about nematodes and will try that in the future.. I do get some fungus knats but improved since letting pots dry out more and had an influx of earwigs which improved when I fixed light leaks but atm I am in control however I am worried about how to keep control during up and coming flower stage. Any ideas will be welcome!

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For a quick and dirty kill everything in the tent, I use these...not for everyone but they work 100%

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@zn ok I looked this up and found one in Australia quite expensive but an investment to have on hand i  guess. I was unaware of this one thx very much. It does say dont use around food...must be potent do you think the plants absorb the vapour? 

BTW zn that nitrogen tip did wonders much appreciate your input. 

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@bandit No idea mate but I'm not dead yet, lol...I smoke with tobbaco...70+ carcinogens...apparently 😀

And no worries, thats what Percys is all about

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@zn lmao that's what I was thinking 'it hadn't killed you yet' didn't like to say it haha had to laugh at the comment 

I used mj to give up tobacco but the damage is done no doubt. I was a heavy tobacco smoker. 

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Earwigs like to hide when the flower lights on, stick a pot upside down on a tray, lift one edge an inch and fill it with paper hay, make them feel at home and just before the light switches off empty the pot in the garden, should be able to keep the numbers down, not all bad they do enjoy eating other insects that damage your plants   

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Yeah I was leaving them alone at first thinking they will eat pests then holes started appearing on plant leaves so I got the neem oil out along with torch runs plucking out earwigs that seemed resistant to neem but its possible I blame the wrong pest because of late No Holes maybe it was a tent catapiller as my yellow sticky caught a couple neem probably got more.

I put flywire over roof vent as moths were getting in. Shall try your pot idea! Thx. 

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