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This happened within 24 hours.  Leaves are rotting, branches are falling over, and all white hairs have started to die (turn orange or brown).

Coco grow, PH is more or less correct, used same nutes for time 

Started a massive flush but dout it can recover.  Probably toss her but dont want a recurring issue and want to know what the issue is (and cause of).

Plan is to disinfect the tent, toss fabric pots and clean air filter. Will that be enough?

Ideas?

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@grower-urban sorry to see her like that , but as said by macky she will probably come back. Just follow the instructions from the experts ?

 

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Wish i had a clue bruv @macky @Zombie Nation @TempleGrower.

I would post up a few more pics from the pot an all round the plant close up and whole plant so they can get a good look around her an help diagnose better ?? best of luck bruv

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Posted by: @scottishmac

I would post up a few more pics from the pot an all round the plant close up and whole plant so they can get a good look around her an help diagnose better ?? best of luck bruv

Ya, should have, will do when I get home. I'm a dummy sometimes and dont provide the info I would ask for when trying to diagnose a problem lol???

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Something she has eaten i think mate..... You mix the right food last time she was fed? And have you calibrated your meters recently? Dont bin her man, youll be surprised what they will come back from.

The flush will help, but make sure to feed again, dont leave the coco with no feed in it 

Give us as much info as possible and we will get it sorted man, no rush to kill her just yet

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@macky?

 

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Ya think it was more or less the same feed.  Should I feed it the same nutes again? Or just something for her to eat? @macky 

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Ps the ph pen is toast, it reads the same cup of water at a way different levels after several minutes for it to adjust and doesn't go below 6.3 ever (calibrated recalibrated).   

Think it was damaged at some point, same brand works for @TempleGrower.  When my buddy finally tries his it will be interesting how it performs (same order off amazon).

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Got home too late last night, dark period.  Had to leave for work before Lights on this morning.  Will post some pics when I get home.

 

Thanks everyone for the support 

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@grower-urban honestly, that one pic wont cut it. give us a couple good shots

 

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Tell me what food you have mate, and what stage of growth youre at with a pic of the full plant and ill come up with what i would be giving her at this stage Smile

 

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It's in mid to late flower (week 7 after a 1 week preflower period on a 10-13 week finisher... maybe).  The only food I have on hand is A+B for flower (A=6-0-3, B=1-4-8 that gets mixed in equal part), CalMag (2-0-0) and Kelp juice (.5-0-.5 but says to stop using once flowers appear). 

I did sneak in the tent last night to blindly (dark period) feed them a pinch/gallon of Miracle Glow Bloom (15-30-15) because I did a massive flush a few hours before and didn't renute at the time (thought the old nutes might have gone off).

QUESTION: Should bottle nutes be refrigerated after opening? 

PH should be Ok although I use the same stuff so much I dont always check it (usually every 2nd or 3rd feeding just to check once I feel its dialed in).

Tent temps are HIGH 88-92F

RH meter ran out of battery over a month ago and I still haven't got batteries for it ? but its winter so dry, I'd guess 40% or less

The hairs dont seem as damaged as before but the nugs are definitely 'airy'.  Some stem/stocks are just flopping over, have spots and seem to have no life left in them.  Pretty much ALL the fan leaves are gone or going.

IMO I dont think they are worth saving, unless the nugs swell like mad, but right now its probably less than an OZ (just all the time put in sucks).

Appreciate all advise y'all can give tho, these are the cheetos so would like a little harvest at least if possible.

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@grower-urbanwhat size pots have you got them in mate?

 

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Posted by: @irish-johnny

@grower-urbanwhat size pots have you got them in mate?

 

These are the two small 1 gallon fabric pots.  They got fed the same amount as the 2 and 3 gallon.  Could I have salted the medium too much?  Usually a bit of run off but not alot

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@grower-urban

that could be your problem man, root bound and over feeding of nuts, not on purpose just getting clogged up in the medium, never used fabric pots i use airpots but it would make sense that salts could build up in fabric

 

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Posted by: @irish-johnny

@grower-urban

that could be your problem man, root bound and over feeding of nuts, not on purpose just getting clogged up in the medium, never used fabric pots i use airpots but it would make sense that salts could build up in fabric

 

Ya only my first or second run with fabric.  Worked great with most the autos but they finished alot earlier so build up could be the answer!  #community 

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@grower-urban

mate i highly recommend the airports they are expensive but they have amazing aeration of the soil no build up of nutes and excellent run off capability, i have mine set up an an extra inch so i know its never sitting in the run off, its food for thought. anyway nice chatting mate im off to bed now its 1am here.

 

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@macky 

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Ahhhh Miracle grow ?‍♂️ Designed for garden flowers death to ours, my guess ur locked out n pass no return sorry. 

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Posted by: @fukentokin

Ahhhh Miracle grow ?‍♂️ Designed for garden flowers death to ours, my guess ur locked out n pass no return sorry. 

First time using the Miracle Grow this grow (and for a good while).  It was all I had to add something back to the coco after the flush (other than the bottle nutes I think have turned bad).

Only used a tiny amount but will note NEVER TO USE IT AGAIN.

Thanks for the advice??

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Mate, I really dont know lol

Very strange one this is, i think its going to be a lock out too if anything. Its the only thing that would make sense, too much food and not enough run off to get rid of the old foods? 

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@macky

do they look a bit light of broad leafs could a lack of leaves cause her to wilt a bit if she’s not getting enough light to process her feed maybe? 

 

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hmmmmmmmm, nice Johnny, you could be on to something i think 

 

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@macky

i hope not and it is a nut issue, otherwise there may be no coming back from it. but logically thinking if there's not enough solar panels you aint gona get hot water. as far as i always knew garden plants and shrubs need at least 60% foliage to survive, i presume the ganga needs the same

 

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Posted by: @irish-johnny

@macky

do they look a bit light of broad leafs could a lack of leaves cause her to wilt a bit if she’s not getting enough light to process her feed maybe? 

 

Absolutely, fan leaves died off by the dozens in a very short period of time.

I only removed fan leaves that were blocking bud sites and under canopy growth previously but had to remove a metric f#ck ton that browned out and rotted last 48 hours.

Have no idea but think:

1 something caused huge PH imbalance 

2 plants lost so many fan leaves they cant take in the light effectively

3 due to #2 they dont drink as much so I've 'salted' the medium 

4 a disease has taken over

ANY IDEAS ON PREVENTION STRATEGIES?

I usually give a quick vac and wipe down of the tent between grows but will go Dexter after I take these out (bleach, rubbing alcohol, etc).

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@grower-urban

that sucks man i had some issues with ph aswell but thankfully it was very early on and i was able to save them. i lost a some leaves but only a handful, i hope she works out mate, I'm not much help I'm a newbie tbh lol just trowing out some ideas.

 

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Posted by: @irish-johnny

@grower-urban

... i hope she works out mate, I'm not much help I'm a newbie tbh lol just trowing out some ideas.

 

That's all we can do!  I'm no expert (obviously) but do my best to learn everyday (from mistakes mostly) and anybody that says they know it all is a liar.

Appreciate the input, the more ideas the merrier 

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anytime broda, sorry you put so much time into them to waste them, i had to send one of my girls to the chopping block today and her sister might go in the coming days, but there other 4 are going grand and its my first time, with the combined knowledge of all the old skool lads here all us newbies will do fine it might take a few attempts but we will succeed in the long run. 

 

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All good man, got plenty of beans and new grows planned just want to prevent the same issue in the future.

 

 

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@grower-urban well then your sweet as a fucking nut joey ? as long as you dont mind loosing the girls and starting over your grand. at least you dont have to worry about the popo in your neck of the woods, over this side of the pond a loss like that would be devastating, if all else fails you have epic weed available in the dispensaries unlike our mystery weed from shady dealers lol

 

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Posted by: @irish-johnny

...if all else fails you have epic weed available in the dispensaries unlike our mystery weed from shady dealers lol

 

Not true.  Ontario Cannabis Store is garbage.  I've grown better than their $20 a gram stuff (but not consistently).  More often than not it's a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT FOR COST!

  Then again each licensed store gets/buys different products but in Brampton it's a JOKE! They advertise 17%-22% in store for pink kush and the tested label on the product is 13% plus its crispy and tasteless.

I'm lucky enough to know several growers (some know what they're doing) and we have a small community that 'shares' quite a bit ??

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Ps the 'before' legislation dispensaries were better, 10 fold

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Can you post a link?  Love the podcasts but never seem to see updates on my YouTube subscriptions (mobile phone)

 

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Posted by: @irish-johnny

...if all else fails you have epic weed available in the dispensaries unlike our mystery weed from shady dealers lol

 

Not true.  Ontario Cannabis Store is garbage.  I've grown better than their $20 a gram stuff (but not consistently).  More often than not it's a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT FOR COST!

  Then again each licensed store gets/buys different products but in Brampton it's a JOKE! They advertise 17%-22% in store for pink kush and the tested label on the product is 13% plus its crispy and tasteless.

I'm lucky enough to know several growers (some know what they're doing) and we have a small community that 'shares' quite a bit ??

Wasn't gonna say anything but.... hahahah. Some of these up and coming micros don't look too bad... still won't be paying 15/g for it though ? 

But as they say, those who can, grow. Those who can't get ripped off. (FYI, this 0.5g doob was the cheapest available, and still cost $8.87 CAD. I literally asked for the cheapest, shittiest joint they had. and oh baby did they deliver ?)

Cute

That is super tough about the plantos tho - I had to bin 3 of my ladies last grow due to issues.... not sweet but, happens to all of us I suppose. I agree tho.. I think she ate something that really fucked her up.. the typical issues we deal with tend not to destroy a plant that quickly. Kinda reminds me of when I dump vinegar on the weeds in the cracks of my sidewalk to kill them off.. they basically just dry out and die within a day. YOU DIDN'T WATER WITH VINEGAR RIGHT? Just kidding. But yes, very strange indeed... as if some kind of pH-adjusting demon came and strangled her to death.

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They look like sick little ladies, hope they get better for you man ??

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She gone.  Wasn't getting any better and considering my situation easier to cut her, clean the tent, and get the next batch in than muck about trying to save a few grams (but a bumper crop would have been nice).

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Gave the tent a good wipe down with isopropyl alcohol, tossed the fabric pots the affected plants were in, cleaned the drip trays and added a grill so the next batch aren't sitting in any run off. ??

 

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THE INPUT! THIS IS WHY I RECOMMEND PERCYS TO EVERYONE! #TeamPercy #community 

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@grower-urban very nice mate?Next one will be killer

 

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@lovetoflyfish ??

 

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@grower-urban Ive had some plants go south on me, Each time I learned something, mainly what not to do, I tend to want to try different things some times many things at once and I get taught a lesson.  I am running Fabric pots for the first time now not sure if I like them I find it harder to get my soil evenly moist and the one I had to flush I am not sure it was thorough enough water kept coming out the sides instead of the bottom.  Good luck on your next grow

 

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@twisted1 I am having the same problem with my new pots, air pots they pish water everywhere apart from where u want it?out the bottom would be nice?

 

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Fuked up and had to delete a message sorry canna wasnt on purpose having powers is dangerous on mobile lmao

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But as i was tryin to say, with may first grow i had major problems with build up of salts in the fabric so this time i have burst some holes in the base an bottom sides will keep you all informed if it makes a difference at all lol sarry again canna. Thought i hit like but hit edit then tried to delete it but didn't refresh an ye wtever i fekd it lol thnk fk it wasnt a big post lmfao. 

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We are a home growers cannabis forum, and we only allow people who grow cannabis for personal use to be members. Our mission is to help you grow your own cannabis. We do not buy/sell/trade cannabis, or equipment for growing cannabis. Our site is strictly a cannabis smokers forumcannabis growers forum and forum for medical cannabis users.

Use our guides on how to grow cannabiscannabis grow diaries, and growers forum to find all the info you need to learn how to grow your own cannabis.

Any member who is suspected of growing cannabis for commercial gains will be banned immediately.

Please read our forum rules, and enjoy the site.

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