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Making Autoflower seeds cheaply and easily

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As you know l am prolific outdoor grower. I am a big fan of autoflower plants for the outdoor season. However with ever increasing cost of auto flower seeds 30 dollars for 3 Auto seeds!! There must be a cheaper way. I really want to make some seeds cheaply with little effort for next years outdoor season.

I was thinking could l simply spray colloidal silver on a autoflower plant for 10 days as soon as l see preflowers. Technically selfing the plant. Is it that simple? Or l am missing something? 

Has anyone tried this?

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Posted : November 24, 2022 7:09 am
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@smg_grows hey mate, with the short time frame of an auto you will want to stager your plant you want to get pollen from with the one you want to pollinate. Ideally you would be starting the first plant you are reversing then about 4 weeks later start the next one you want to pollinate. That gives you the most amount of time to collect the pollen and then utilise that pollen and give the other plant enough time to produce the seeds. But once you do this once you will potentially yield thousands of seeds so whilst it takes a longer time and a bit of messing around it is worth it and cost effective in the end.

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Posted : November 24, 2022 8:44 am
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Also don't forget you can store pollen as long as it's dry in the freezer but it will lose some of its potency the longer it is stored. 

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Posted : November 24, 2022 8:45 am
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@smg_grows There are several here who are experimenting with this, and I recently started a staggered auto grow to do exactly as @Bubblehok said.  There are two routes you can take for reversing. The first is colloidal silver as you said, which is more affordable but requires a lot more application which can be a hassle. The second is STS (silver-thiosulfate) which costs a bit more, and is a little more difficult to handle (two bottles, light sensitive, stored in the fridge), but it is usually sprayed a lot less and you usually get a stronger reaction.

Here are couple of recent threads where this has been discussed. There are probably others that I am forgetting about, too.

https://percysgrowroom.com/forum/growing-cannabis-indoors/homemade-colloidal-silver-for-feminised-seed-making/

https://percysgrowroom.com/forum/cannabis-breeding/sts/#post-113416

https://percysgrowroom.com/forum/flowering/how-do-i-collect-pollen/

Hope that helps!

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Posted : November 24, 2022 1:01 pm
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Posted by: @bubblehok

Also don't forget you can store pollen as long as it's dry in the freezer

My own experience as well as some experience from some commercial growers from Dat Smoke Show say that pollen life is relatively short even if stored correctly. I’ve read that it will last a year but that’s not true or at least extremely rare. Expect a 1-4 month storage max if stored dry with rice to help keep it dry and in the freezer. Mine lasted about 90 days before potency started dropping fast but that was male pollen, not a reversed female.

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Posted : November 24, 2022 1:31 pm
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@smg_grows, it's real easy but it takes awhile with CS. A 17-fl,oz bottle of CS sprayed twice a day for 4 weeks has switched my auto. Now I can wait till it ready and put it in a plastic bag or something and store it while you start another auto, then you'll use your reversed female to pollinate the second plant. Then wait for those seeds and you'll have auto fem seeds.

Good luck man. 🖐️  

 
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You can spray half the plant and that will pollenate the other half the plant but you have to start spraying very early. like week 3. I haven't done this yet.

 
Posted : November 24, 2022 1:44 pm
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@monkeydo yeah man, if you have good lab equipment like a vacuum chamber and liquid nitrogen storage you can freeze indefinitely... For the rest of us, use it or lose it... Most i have gotten is 3 months using rice and desiccant in my kitchen freezer. I recommend if you are gonna try and save for freezing, split it among a few containers so you dont thaw/refreeze any that you want to use again.  It should only come out of freezing once.

 
Posted : November 24, 2022 4:12 pm

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