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December 8, 2019 8:20 pm  

I'm sure 'shatter batter' is just a mix of vg, pg, and emulsifying agents.  Has anyone used it before?  Its about $30-35 CND for a 30ml bottle but claims 3ml can covert about a gram of wax/concentrate into stable e-liquid for vaping (not great price wise, but not too bad if it actually works well, especially if it mixes in the time they say).

Have a bunch of gear from when I vaped nicotine so only real cost is the shatter  batter itself.  Think it would add a huge convenience factor if I could fill a tank full of liquid and puff on it as I want over a week (or days) VS 1 dab at a time in my pen (3-5 hits) when it takes 20 mins to cool down and re pack.

Also dont want to get ripped off cause I know VG and PG are much cheaper ($30 per L if that) just unsure about the other ingredients in the product.  

Ps 'natural' is the batter I'm interested in, the flavoured crap just adds to the 'what am I vaping?'


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December 8, 2019 8:23 pm  

Never heard of it before mate, but it will probably be cheaper to mix your own vape juice i think. IF you can find out what ingredients are in it, it should be too hard to back engineer that shit and find what you need 😉 

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December 8, 2019 8:45 pm  
Posted by: @macky

Never heard of it before mate, but it will probably be cheaper to mix your own vape juice i think. IF you can find out what ingredients are in it, it should be too hard to back engineer that shit and find what you need 😉 

Hope so but they keep it a secret lol


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January 19, 2020 9:52 pm  

@grower-urban

It's just polyethylene glycol (PEG300) and oil based flavoring. Try terpenes instead for flavoring but only use a couple drops and I'd avoid vaping large amounts of PEG


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January 19, 2020 11:27 pm  

Welcome to Percys Pizza breath Smile Awesome input mate! Good to have you 

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January 20, 2020 1:34 am  

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Thank you! I don't think that THC e-juices are really meant to be honestly. There's just no carrier liquids that are soluble with cannabinoids that you'd ever want to be inhaling in quantities like that. Keep your oil predominantly cannabinoids but if you go and water it down just so it works in a vape tank you are taking a gamble by vaping several ML's of untested diluting agents. Polyethylene glycol like in these liquidizers is safe for consumption but that doesn't necessarily mean they're okay to vape. PEG has been proven to degrade to formaldehyde at high temperatures, much worse than propylene glycol or VG. Problem is propylene glycol and VG only mix with water soluble stuff so they wont work with THC. They are going to cause your THC to form a little bubble in your juice that you may not even get to vape by the end. Honestly you're better off just making a strong cart without a bunch of junk added to it and only take a puff or two then save your ejuice for when you want to vape. Not worth the clouds

 

Polyethylene glycol is antifreeze FWIW


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January 20, 2020 8:43 am  

fucking hell man, glad i stop vaping lol. buds for the win lol, nothing wrong with a spliff 😉

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January 20, 2020 11:15 am  

Hi dude, so I’m big into my oils. Mainly dab hash rosin. Me and my 2 pals all have experimented with a few ways of getting extracts into a low enough viscosity to vape/different pens/rigs and what not. But the best thing I’ve found for ease of access daily hits is a saionara too flow atomiser with quarts or titanium bucket. 

 

Honestly this thing is the closest thing to a hand held dab rig I have found. Dual airflow adjustment and works from any normal e cig mod(battery pack) and you can adjust it depending on if you want a huge dab or little micro hits. Fuck all that pg/vg shit man. Doesn’t get much better than just rosin/shatter!! 

Think I picked up mine for around £50 but it’s deffo worth it and the build quality is amazing. I got I think a choice of 3 buckets. And a heat vent attachment and all sorts of bits with it. I personally use the quarts bowl which I find the best and easier to clean.

 

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January 20, 2020 1:13 pm  

@idealbatch

how do you load it up on the go. discreetly too. ive always had trouble grabbing a piece of shatter while out and about to throw into my yocan.


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January 20, 2020 1:22 pm  

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I personally don’t need to load it frequently. I can’t smoke for shit anymore ? but if I need to load it on the move, which I’ve done before is cut little square inch pieces of grease proof paper and roll little dab size balls of rosin like a bogey between my fingers ? then just wrap them and stick em in whatever.

if it’s stupid but works it’s not so stupid haha but if you put a fair chunk in which you can fit a fair amount in. Keep it low to medium and you can slowly puff away on that all day. Mine can last a week at times just having a couple big hits a night. They’re also spill proof I believe so doesn’t matter about loading it up with an big old blob. Makes it easier keeping rosin in a cool environment if it’s super sticky to be able to snap a bit of and roll it into a ball. Work fast and it’s not messy.


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January 20, 2020 2:08 pm  

@idealbatch

for at home, i dab multiple times a day with my Puffco Peak. super convenient. on the go, i used a few before settling on a simple Yocan Evolve Plus, modified with the mouth piece and bowl connecter switched out with the yocan Magneto so that everything was magnetic (no screwing on and off to reload) used their dual coils, which hit pretty hard but soon affects taste and are hard to clean. moved onto their ceramic coils, they were great.

loading was always a pain tho. if you had good shatter that could snap, its not a problem. but in the summer, carrying that around even the best shatter ends up sappy. start with something sappy and youre downright fucked lol. i also didnt like that i didnt have a dab tool with me, or two to scrape one off the other lol.

then i just moved onto the CCell carts filled with... at first my home made batch of low grade shatter and cheap distillate mixed down with a few drops per 1ml of 100% pure MCT oil to loosen it up. it was great but kind of a pain to make, even with my magnetic stirring heatplate doing most of the labor lol. now i just do distillate filled CCells.

i needed something discreet for work. im a fairly heavy user and i find distillate doesnt leave much of a smell. tastes like youre smoking pepper but.... lol

i also make my own capsules from bulk RSO from my dispensary. 100 mg a day of those supplemented by my dabbing and smoking 😛


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January 20, 2020 7:41 pm  
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fresh batch of VG tincture made with 47 grams of decarbed shake!! I drink it, vape it sometimes, cook with it and make topicals 

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January 21, 2020 12:09 pm  

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So pretty much anyway you can then Jen ? 


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