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Hi Percys.

I’ve just finished a grow and have 3 plants that I want to turn into an oil for a family member.

I’ve done some basic infusions before but just looking for tips and tricks to make something that might be considered more medical grade, also if there’s ways to do it that keep smell to a minimum?

Ive heard of decarbing in mason jars or vac pack bags and even doing the whole process start to finish in a jar or bag. 

Also been looking into carrier oils, MCT oil seems to be the one? With some lecithin added, not entirely sure what this does, helps the cannabis molecules bind to the fat better?

Last but not least any ratios? I’ve seen an ounce of bud to a cup of oil come up during my research as a way of making something really concentrated (it’s for a recovering cancer patient so going high on the strength)

 

Any feedback, opinions, ideas, experience and research welcome! Just looking to make the best for the people I love

 

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Posted : September 26, 2022 1:08 pm
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This is Feco oil that I made a couple weeks ago. This is suppose to be the strongest and purest and medical grade to since it uses grain alcohol. hope this helps.

https://percysgrowroom.com/forum/cannabis-oils/feco-oil/#post-109273

https://percysgrowroom.com/forum/medicinal-section/how-to-make-feco-oil/#post-59243

 
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Cheers! @woodi2 

I’ve got a supplier for RSO that looks pretty similar to that stuff, dark black, sticky and in a syringe.

The person I’m making it for doesn’t like that stuff much so she uses it sparingly but takes the oil everyday so looking to make a really strong oil rather than an alcohol extraction.

But I’m gonna keep that bookmarked for my own experimentation 

 
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@greentomato I use infused oil every day to mitigate back pain. My particular ratio is very strong too because I prefer to use less oil to get my medication. For me it’s 30-40 grams bud to one cup of oil. Typically it takes a bit longer to get this infused but when it does finally all meld together it works fantastic. 

You can reduce the smell by infusing in a mason jar. If you are doing this in the oven replace the inner lid of the jar with plain aluminum foil. The lids have plastic and rubber which could melt and contaminate the bud. You can also decarb in a mason jar in simmering water. The lower temperature takes longer but you can keep the jar loosely closed and most of the odor is contained. Another option is sous vide bags. I have a friend in Oregon that swears by this method as it can preserve the terpenes. The bag will expand when being decarbed but it will return to normal after decarbing if you put it in the refrigerator first. This re-condenses the terps in the bud.

My oil of choice is avacodo oil atm. It’s a little milder on my system than the coconut mct is and the nutritional info looks to be healthier too. Long term use of the coconut products upset my stomach but we are all different in that respect. Almond oil was good too so sometimes I swap them around.

The lecithin has a double function. It’s serves as an emulsifier to let the oil bind with other foods easier and also enhances the bio-availability of the canabanoids in your body. It’s definitely worth the add imo.

Hope this explains something. If I can help answer anything else just ask. Hope you’re family member recovers quickly.

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@monkeydo cheers monkey 

that’s great info. Can I ask how you go about doing the sous vide method and how much lecithin you’re using? Was gonna get some sunflower lecithin today and give it a go over the weekend.

Ive been using hemp seed oil, haven’t tried anything else other than butter. Can you use any carrier oil you like? Or do Some carry better than others?

 
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@greentomato the time I did the sous vide method the setup was crude. Break up the buds and seal them in a vacuum sealer bag removing as much air as you can. Put the bag in a hot water bath just below boiling and let it heat through for a few hours (we let it go for 4 hours). The bag will inflate with terpenes. When it’s done place the bag in the refrigerator to re-condense the terps.

I use a teaspoon of lecithin per cup of oil and it seems to work at that level. Some say the lecithin has a bad taste but it doesn’t bother me at all.

Most fats can be infused with cannabis. The most commonly used oil is probably coconut oil because it has a very good binding affinity for the canabanoids and is widely available. Some oils have different flavors, some have a higher smoke point, some are easier to digest, and some are only good as “finishing oils”. Experiment a little if you want and try something different. That’s what I did. If you have any questions about a specific oils best use, Marge is a fantastic source of info on edibles. She got me started experimenting with various kinds of oil.

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I like the mason jar in boiling water.  I preheat the oil, then pour it over the jar with buds in it.  The jar with oil & buds gets capped and set in the just boiling water for a few hours.  The THCA decarbs; the THC, CBD, and terpenes go straight into the oil.

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   I decarb after using this chart.....  

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@billy420bonds So decarb at 145c for 7min?

 
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Posted by: @greentomato

@billy420bonds So decarb at 145c for 7min?

 

Yes,  but you would need to make sure your timing is correct as the period it is at max levels is short...    I will do 2x Oil's... one at 145' and one at 122'. 

 

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