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So I am starting to accumulate more weed than I consume, and as I don't like the thought of it just getting old and going to waste I was thinking about trying to make some concentrates. I do already make some infused coconut oil but I want to try something else, perhaps FECO oil.. but in Sweden it's hard to find high % alcohol. Is it very important to use high % or would 40% suffice?

Making RSO using isoproyl-alcohol makes me a bit nervous, due to the toxicity of the iso-alcohol even in small amounts.. but perhaps could someone ease my apprehensiveness? 

How does FECO/RSO compare to infused coconut oil? Is it more or less the same but just different concentrations, or do you capture more cannabinoids, terps and such in FECO/RSO ?

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Posted : September 29, 2021 6:05 pm
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Posted by: @clist

So I am starting to accumulate more weed than I consume

Excellent! Well done good growing 👌

sorry I can’t advise much on making rso or feco as I don’t yet make them.. 

I can recommend making hash though .. ice water or dry sift 

there are useful guides here @percys and others who may be able to help advise..

good luck and keep up the good growing 

 

Time to pop some more beans 😗

 
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Posted by: @clist

Is it very important to use high % or would 40% suffice?

The higher the better mate, I'm not sure but i would think it takes high strength alcohol to dissolved all the trichomes. If it isn't strong enough they wont dissolved. 

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Posted : September 29, 2021 9:59 pm
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Yeah, you're gonna want to use at least 95% v/v some alcohol. .. some people say Bacardi 151 rum can work, but more for a Green Dragon type of tincture there, not so much RSO/QWISO. 190 proof Ethanol is definitely preferred but isopropyl works just fine. It's what I use here in Canada when making my own. Cheaper and MUCH easier to acquire. I just purge it for a bit extra time in the rice cooker and have never had any issues with it as of yet. Maybe ask me in 10 years lol. If you have access to a vacuum oven tho, then you're laughing. But those are a bit harder to come by..  but yeah, as long as you can do a nice long purge, you should be okay.

The difference between RSO and infused coconut oil is actually pretty big - RSO is technically an extract, whereas infused coconut oil is an infusion. Extracts (aka concentrates) are generally much more potent than infusions as they dissolve and then concentrate the resin when the solvent is boiled off, where an infusion just absorbs the cannabinoids and binds them to their carrier molecules (fat in the case of oils like coconut). Carrier oils have a maximum absorption capacity though (aka the saturation point) and can only hold so much. An extract in comparison has no ceiling and could theoretically go to 99.999999999999999% pure, if you have the right tools to purify and isolate the compounds. But that's another, much longer discussion.. hehehe.

 
Posted : September 30, 2021 12:13 am
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@chillbert thank you for commenting! I am actually seriously considering learning to make ice water hasch Grin  

, yup the guides on percys are great Thumbs Up  

 
Posted : October 1, 2021 5:59 pm
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Posted by: @templegrower

Yeah, you're gonna want to use at least 95% v/v some alcohol. .. some people say Bacardi 151 rum can work, but more for a Green Dragon type of tincture there, not so much RSO/QWISO. 190 proof Ethanol is definitely preferred but isopropyl works just fine. It's what I use here in Canada when making my own. Cheaper and MUCH easier to acquire. I just purge it for a bit extra time in the rice cooker and have never had any issues with it as of yet. Maybe ask me in 10 years lol. If you have access to a vacuum oven tho, then you're laughing. But those are a bit harder to come by..  but yeah, as long as you can do a nice long purge, you should be okay.

The difference between RSO and infused coconut oil is actually pretty big - RSO is technically an extract, whereas infused coconut oil is an infusion. Extracts (aka concentrates) are generally much more potent than infusions as they dissolve and then concentrate the resin when the solvent is boiled off, where an infusion just absorbs the cannabinoids and binds them to their carrier molecules (fat in the case of oils like coconut). Carrier oils have a maximum absorption capacity though (aka the saturation point) and can only hold so much. An extract in comparison has no ceiling and could theoretically go to 99.999999999999999% pure, if you have the right tools to purify and isolate the compounds. But that's another, much longer discussion.. hehehe.

Fantastic reply TG! Thank you, that makes things alot clearer. I must say I am seriously considering trying to make RSO instead of FECO Smile .. the alternative would be constucting a distillery and make my own alcohol..  but thats illegal Envy , but mostly alot of work.. Wink  

 
Posted : October 1, 2021 6:05 pm
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Posted by: @clist

the alternative would be constucting a distillery and make my own alcohol..  but thats illegal

I am considering the same LoL Illegal, is it ???? ah well, better not get caught then, lol

 
Posted : October 1, 2021 6:28 pm
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@zn lol! Grin  

Also interesting to consider that distilling ones own alcohol is massively more socially acceptable than it is to grow cannabis (where I live), while it's actually possible to do actual damage, even killing one self with alcohol, and I would say pretty much impossible to do the same with cannabis. Interesting but sad. Hmm  

 

 
Posted : October 2, 2021 6:20 pm
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