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One center branch is yellowing is this normal? The rest of the plant looks fine?

 

Maybe it is just maturing faster?

 

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Posted : August 24, 2019 12:47 am
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Any damage to that one branch ?

 

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not that I can see, even where the netting is looks ok, not rubbed through anywhere.

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When you water ur soil look for any gnats. Do it soon to rule out fungus gnats. If you find some crush a mosquito dunk over the dirt. If you don’t find any than we move to next possibility. 

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@fukentokin

thanks will check in the morning

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@fukentokin

Spot on mate, I was thinking the same thing, look out for fungus gnats. Put a sticky trap close to the surface of the medium, and see if you pick any up, that'll be the easiest way to see them

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Posted : August 24, 2019 10:06 am
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Got under neath her today, ruffled the soil a bit and using a loupe with a light.  Seen one fly, no other activity.  So I`m thinking maybe they are coming from another source?  This is a California Orange and the only one of that strain in this garden.  It is also the only plant showing this. 

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Leave a sticky trap an inch or so over the top of the soil, itll catch them when they try to fly off, then you'll know for sure if you have them mate

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Posted : August 25, 2019 9:16 am
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diatomaceous earth or sharp sand on top of soil, will rip them apart when/if eggs undersoil hatch

 

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I`m just going to do this even if I dont see anything. thanks again.

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I`m just going to do this even if I dont see anything. thanks again.

Prevention is better than cure and all that 😉

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If you cut a potato in half and set it cut-side down on your soil surface, the FN larvae (if there are any) will congregate underneath and start eating it. It's a sure-fire way to check. Sticky traps are excellent for the adult flying bastards. I've had fungus gnats almost perpetually, in varying population sizes, and haven't seen any actual 'damage' per se from them. The adults don't do anything but fly around (quite shittily mind you), fuck, and lay eggs in the soil. The larvae feed on organic, decaying matter in the soil, and my soil being super, there is a lot of it for them, haha. They can become a problem if they start chewing on the baby roots/root hairs but they generally prefer the decaying shit.. but yes, definitely try the potato trick. Fungus gnats can go straight to hell.

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@phil

If you cut a potato in half and set it cut-side down on your soil surface, the FN larvae (if there are any) will congregate underneath and start eating it. It's a sure-fire way to check. Sticky traps are excellent for the adult flying bastards. I've had fungus gnats almost perpetually, in varying population sizes, and haven't seen any actual 'damage' per se from them. The adults don't do anything but fly around (quite shittily mind you), fuck, and lay eggs in the soil. The larvae feed on organic, decaying matter in the soil, and my soil being super, there is a lot of it for them, haha. They can become a problem if they start chewing on the baby roots/root hairs but they generally prefer the decaying shit.. but yes, definitely try the potato trick. Fungus gnats can go straight to hell.

Nice info temple grower! I like that method, haven't heard it before but it makes sense. 

Its the fungus gnats shit thats the problem. They like to live in damp mediums, and the shit will slowly clog the soil to make it have poor drainage, keeping it wet for longer, and increase fungal growth. This also stops the plant from eating right, which make is display symptoms of deficiency 🙂

Give that potato thing a go Phil!

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Ahh, interesting. Makes sense though. Hopefully it's none of this and just a plant having a bad day..

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@templegrower

thanks for the tip

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Posted : August 26, 2019 2:35 am
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potatoes are in place, diatomaceous earth should be here tomorrow. noticed this on the bottom leaves of the plant today.

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@phil

There is a type of mould called Rust Fungus. This looks a little like that. Are temps cold at night mate? high humidity?

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the humidity broke couple days ago, nights are cooling off but still around 14°C

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Rust mould can be treated same way as pm. Had a lady in last week with it and the monster wash cured her up of it. 

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trying to find more info on "monster wash" without luck

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www.diablonutrients.com

 

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Fukens suggestion of Monster Wash seem ike a good one. 

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Today`s update. No bugs in the spuds.  The leaves that were turning yellow in the original pic are now yellow. Still has not spread on that plant, but I do have two more now showing yellowing of only the fan leaves at the top of the main cola.  I was going to trim that off today but got hit with a good storm last night and spent the last couple hours repairing broken branches and adding more supports, which I will get back to after some dinner.  No signs of powdery mildew, little rust on some lower leaves.

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Damn, been a shit week for theat plant, hope she is ok man. Get some pics up then mate, maybe we have a nutrient deficiency? You been adding anything to the soil?

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Posted : August 28, 2019 12:19 am
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Here she is today.  The yellowing does not seem to be spreading, the other  2 plants are also only half a dozen of the top fan leaves. I`m really starting to wonder if this is just age?  I`m afraid to add anymore nutrients because of the time of year.  Still no bugs in the spuds.  Starting to think California Orange is not meant for an outdoor grow. It has been the weakest plant from the start.

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