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Ive got a few runs behind me now and decided to document this run here so hopefully I can get even a little better. My tent is tiny with less than half a square meter space so running 2 plants is probably pushing that space. I shouldn't complain because so far that tiny space has produced 7 to 8 ounces per run. Only having this small space forced me to get better very fast. Right now the tent is full with flower and that should be finished in a few more weeks. Till then I have a cubby cleared on a shelf that works perfectly for early veg. I started using my homemade veg light last run and was amazed how the plants responded. Its a very simple light that uses three 2700k, 23 watt, cfl bulbs. I had heard some people swearing by these bulbs and so far my babies like them. The homemade fixture was made with stuff I had laying around and took an afternoon for me to complete and cost me less than the cost of a pint at the pub.

The seeds were wet on Tuesday in jiffy pellets and showed themselves yesterday. Today I saw roots coming out of the pellet so they went into solo cups with 70/30 coco and pearlite and all they get right now is rainwater. The Chunk seedling got bumped this morning so I planted it a bit deeper to support the bruised stem. We will see if the injury will be the end or if she will pull through. The seedling on the right is Pineapple Chunk from Barney's Farm and the left is Seedsman's Amnesia Fast. Ive grown Chunk so have some idea of what to expect but Amnesia will be new to me. Here's my progress so far...........

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First thing I was gonna comment with was drop your lights a bit ? 

Hardy little plants once they're green...one of my biggest colas to date was through accidental damage in veg so you never know...could be a monster Smile

Good luck

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easy enough.. down a couple of inches we go. My last run the plants loved the close proximity to the CFL bulbs, just couldn’t get enough of it. Try it different this time and see what’s up I guess.

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Make sure they're clean and not dusty though otherwise they do get hot 😉

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Wish I knew how to edit the thread name. Just noticed my typo..  “Pineapple Chink” instead of Pineapple Chunk could sound a bit racist to some, not intended just got clunky fingers.

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fixed it for you Monkey Smile

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Thanks mate?

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First true leaf appeared yesterday. Also noticed the seedling were reaching for the light to much. Looks to have added another cm high so I pushed the plant back between the bulbs. This morning the leaf growth was normal and the stem didn't get any longer Smile Checked the leaf temp with an infrared thermometer and its only 24.5 so no worries.  I've started light folliar feeding with Kelp from Fox Farm. Its really helped me accelerate seedling growth in the past. Tomorrow I'll start watering with a light solution of Kangaroots and light Cal\Mag. Last couple of grows roots were showing at the bottom drain holes in a week but my space is cooler in the winter so time will tell. And the less than exciting pictures.......................

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There won't be any space for these in a tent for at least 3 weeks. Currently running a no defoliation run that has my tiny tent slammed but it looks good. This is my second time running I like this and so far I'm happy. Last harvest pulled over 200 grams dry trimmed bud in .42 sq meter

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. Greedy me wants to best it this run.

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A little under a week since last update. It looks that my seedling have the desire to become a real plant. The growth acceleration has begun. The Pineapple Chunk is the front runner but both plants are now on the third node. Tomorrow I plan on switching to light grow nutes (Sensi Coco) and continue with Kangaroots and of course Cal/Mag. Foliage feeding with Kelp twice daily will also continue. I saw roots showing from the drain holes in the cups so that's what I expected. These have about a week more, maybe longer, to build root mass before I plan to move them up a size. Amnesia Fast is on the left, Chunk is on the right

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My limited experience with cannabis pushed me to create this post to improve my knowledge so I'm going to ask EVERY stupid question I have read or been told so that you much more experienced growers might weigh in on them. Here's the first one ... The purple color on the seedling stem (chunk) indicates nutrient problems, Limited experience leads me to believe that different strains just present differently. Opinions on this please!

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From what i believe bro purple can mean a deficiency but some strain do colour purple too. I would say if its jus coloured an looks fine you should be good otherwise i would keep an eye on it. but I'm only finishing up my first grow, but i have watched a lot of YouTube videos ?????

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Yeah, I think you are just fine. Some stems will be purple, some are green... And being so young, I'm not sure it would have had enough time to develop those issues just yet anyways... it's likely still taking a decent amount of it's food from its cotyledons so, you should be good to go. Purple petioles can indicate a phosphorus deficiency, and purple stems can mean an overall nutrient deficiency, but that generally won't happen until much later on, if it does at all, and is more than likely caused by pH issues, not an actual lack of P in the feed. But again, I think you're just fine.

Hopefully it's a sign of things to come.. purple is the best flavour. ? 

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Knew this was the site for me! Learning already.

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Got yourself your first bit of bling there Monkey, 100 likes, well done man Smile

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15 days old and we are now starting the 6th node (barely). The seedlings really love the gentle 2700k CFL lights. The plan is to top these 3 times to manifold them into 8 tops. One other thing I want to try is to clone the top and then try to manifold it as well. The rooted top should maintain apical dominance so this might work. Ultimately if this is a good pheno I want so see how many times I can clone then manifold the top. Might be silly but we learn by trying. If this is going to work I will need to let these grow a couple more weeks before the first topping. Of course I not only welcome but highly encourage any information or opinions about this. Here are this weeks pics. Amnesia is on the left and Pineapple Chunk is to the right.

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Not a terrible lot going on but the girls are doing well. Just chopped the tent to get them into their forever home.

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. Been crazy busy at work so I'll have to get these trimmed later. No worries, 50% rh and 19c showld hold them for some hours.

Got both babies set up with independent auto watering systems so I can tailor nutes to each. I've grown Pineapple Chunk before but it was my first grow and was some of the harshest smoke ever because I screwed up almost everything. So I learned that that Chunk likes to eat so but know little about Amnesia Fast. If anyone can help, does amnesia feed heavy or lightly?

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The plants are about ready for my HST. I have been running a manifold training with good success. To busy to cut and clone today. When I do its going to look horrible for a few days.

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Two plus weeks and lots of things have changed. Work has been very busy, no time to post or really do anything, and my girls got neglected some. It was time to cut the tops and create the clones. Veg has been longer because I wanted a strong top clone so it was 8 nodes or more high when they were cut.

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Next was the first very stressful cut. Always was told never to remove more than 1/3 of the plant at any one time, Very certain that I didn't follow that advice. I'm aiming at a mainline training, the original way done by Nugbuckets.

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It's easy to see more of the plant is cut than remains. Also started the clones here as well with my homemade humidity dome.

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At this point the plants were set for 3 fertigations per day with the auto system, or so I thought. In my haste I neglected to re-enable the pumps so 3 days later I figured it out when the res was still full. re-enabled the system but neglected to check the ph of a 4 day old res. over the course of the next few days I saw preliminary lock-out from my oversight. Yer man, I did so much wrong I'm almost embarrassed to admit it but I didn't kill em. got busy at work and my garden didn't get the love it needed.

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within a few days I made the second topping, not knowing I was stressing them out even more because they were starving.

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The girls got put on special care. They were proper flushed and then hand watered and monitored for 4 days. Amnesia looks to be recovering nicely but I'm still seeing some signs of a possible calcium deficiency on the Pineapple Chunk. Its a heavy eater for sure. Right now its getting 1.5ml cal/mag and 15ml a and b of Advanced nutrients coco formula in 8 liters water. The final ec is 1.4 with a base starting rainwater 0.040 . I'm checking the ph daily right now and keeping it stable between 5.9 and 6.2 . From the very start I've noticed variegated coloring on some of the leaves on the Chunk. It looks to be only a genetic mutation. Right now one of the tops on the mainline is lighter than the rest and some leaves also show variation.

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The final topping was a few days ago when I also put the cloned tops into solo cup. Again being distracted from work I missed one clip on the Amnesia and lost one top, so that one will only have a 7 topper. The plants continue to improve condition and the support hoops for the mainline will go in this week when they get their final larger, 18 liter pots. I'd like to be able to flip in a couple weeks. My ladies are far from beauty queens right now but look a sight better than a week ago. Going to make a commitment to stay on top f this from here on.

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Been watching closely and this morning I noticed something odd when mixing a new res. Using rainwater at starting EC of 21 the ph was high at 8.2 . Usually I see closer to ph 7.3 to start but being winter its different but that's not the problem. I'm running Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow Coco formula with the "ph perfect" technology and it has always worked very well in the past. I adjusted the starting ph on one res to 7.0 and left the other at 8.2, mixed the nutes and checked the ph. Both res were high at about 7.6 ph. The nutes were not dropping the ph to what it was designed to.

QUESTION ... Are the nutes going bad or has anyone else seen this phenom

I eventually manually set res ph at 5.9 and will have to continue to daily do testing and adjust as needed. Just to compare, I mixed a res of Fox Farms Grow Big and without any adjustment the ph was spot on. Odd in my limited experience as I found fox to be less stable than Adv Nutes were. I'm considering changing nutes on these ladies. In stock I have the Fox Farm hydro line and the standard A.N. Sensi Grow/Bloom A&B (non coco) as well as the current nutes.

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ph perfect only works to a certain dosage, if you don't use full dosage, it doesn't have the same effects. 

Aslo, the ph perfect add extra unneeded salts, s the EC always seems higher than it actually is, i stopped using it for this reason. 

It better to have your own control over ph, Ph perfect is good for noobs, but you're past that now mate, go for canna on your next grow, or something like that

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