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My Northern lights auto is currently at 5 1/2 weeks and has shown this weird leaf mutation since about week 2 of veg. Seed stockers genetics.

The grow medium is a Coco/garden soilish mix.

My lights are set up at 45° pphd overlap configuration in veg and are currently at 25° in the first week of flower.

If I haven't covered anything just let me know and I'll provide the info if I can 

Grow Medium
Soil
Grow Light
Twin vivosun VS1000's
Temperature C/F : (Light on/off)
Summer fluctuations between 26° & 32°
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65
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Nutrients

Currently Hy-gen part B plus worm castings and mollasis

pH Level
6-6.5
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Fortnightly or when deficiency noted
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@improper_weed_viking Welcome to Percys mate Smile Thanks for joining us! You say currently hygen part b.... why not hygen part a? Usually both are used together right? What sin the b part of the nutrients? I think these are aalittle magnesium deficient, but would like ot know whats in the b part of the nuits youre feeding Smile

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Hi Macky and thanks.

Sorry I've gotten my terminology mixed up there, I meant to say I'm using single part bloom Hy-gen (I was referring to 2 part as in using nitrosol for veg and Hy-gen for bloom).

The bloom nuits consist of.

N 1.9, P 0.94, K 3.62, Ca 1.36, Mg 0.55, S 0.82 %w.w.

NPK ratio 7:8:16

 

 

 

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Sorry I don't do soil or coco but twisted leaves could be a Boron deficiency. The Part A should have the Micro nutrients (boron) and the nitrogen, then part B should be PK based. So if your not using Part A, that could be the problem. Then like @Macky said, we'd need to know what in Part B. But the lighter green color and the twisted growth looks like an unbalanced diet. Why are you leaving the Part A out? Doesn't look too bad, yet, should be an easy fix for ya. 

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@woodi2 totally new to potted under lights mate so I'm doing some unorthodox methods until I get smacked into doing it right lol

 
I didn't bother with the veg nuits from Hy-gen because I had been using nitrosol and was getting good results from the baggies I had out in the yard. A quick check of both my nuits shows absolutely zero boron in the nitrosol and it gets a mention in the Hy-gen bloom but no idea how much as there was no value attached to it, just that it has it in it lol 
So yeah looks to be deficient in boron.
 
Not only is it my first rodeo for lights it's my first auto lol I'm shocked at how fast things are happening and am almost to scared to touch it lol
 
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@improper_weed_viking, yeah man, no worries I understand. LOL I'm not familiar with this nutrient brands. Yeah it's nice to be able to read a label and know what's going into your plants. 

 Usually Boron is only need in very small amounts and is included in the trace elements that are usually found in Part A of a 2 or 3 part mix regiment. Nutrient like Advanced Nutrients, Canna Nutrients, General Hydroponics are all synthetic nutrients and will have proper trace elements. 

 The other issue is that Boron is what's showing on the twisted leaves, but it possible that it's being caused because your part B having too much PK and that will lock-out other nutrients like Boron and then everything starts going crazy.

  So to treat this, first go get some good Cannabis friendly nutrients. I would rinse your soil with fresh water. This is a pain in the Ass! Cuz it's slowwwwwww. But the water has to go through and rinse the salts out. I guessing 2-3 gals/4L, but I don't do soil. That stuffs dirty! lol 🤣 

  Then mix your nutrients at 1/4 the recommended strength. Start off low and slow and give her a week or so to get back to fully straighten out. I understand that she's an auto, she'll be alright. The sooner you get her the right nutz, the sooner you'll be smiling!! 😉 

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Many thanks I will definitely be flushing and going light on the nuits from here. I'll let you know how it's all going in a couple of days.

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Hey mate, 9/10 times that twisting is going to be ph related, out of curiosity are you running air pots or fabric pots? Sounds like your running a super coco kind of mix, I'm assuming you got the soil from a garden centre or bunnings?, most of the garden soil available in aus that is general "garden soil" is notorious for containing high amounts of pine in their makeup, pine in turn has a tendency to wreak havoc on the ph levels. Being hot af in Aus this time of year i have been struggling to keep the tents down under 30c myself, the high heat causes the plants to naturally drink more in turn drying the pots a lot quicker than normal, in my case i run coco and perlite so a pot dry out is bad news, in your case its not so bad as soil responds best to wet and dry out periods, but being a coco mix could be drying those pots out quicker. As Woodi mentioned a good flush and test your soil ph, then a light feed should bring her back in line. Being your using hy-gen which is fairly strong stuff i would be looking at around the 1/4 - 1/2 dose max with an auto. Most autos i run will tap out around the 1.8ec mark, some go further but usually 1.8ec is about as far as they go before nute burn occurs. Good luck Smile  

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@bubblehok yeah my pH is a bit screwie and my tester isn't the best (tumbleweed from good old Bunnings lol) as it only measures in .5 increments so I aim to have it flicking a between 6 and 6.5.

The medium is a mix between osmacote garden soil (which is anything but soil) and coco peat in a fabric potato pot (awesome because it has a Velcro flap that I can check the roots out if I need to).

My last check on the pH told me I'm at a solid 6.5 in the medium but I'm getting 7 on the run off. I've gotten a proper pH tester but haven't had time to calibrate it so that'll be a must when I get home

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Ok so I got called out last night with work and had to spend the night away unexpectedly so these 2 pics are roughly 36hrs apart. It drank up its bloom nuits and the reservoir dried up for a good day. It's starting to un-twist itself so I'm just going to drop my pH a fraction and see what happens from there. 

The colour difference is due to my phone camera...  Even if I take a pic twice but move a fraction it'll look totally different

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