White widow auto help
Starting this thread to figure out what is wrong with my plant. Any tips are greatly appreciated.
I am a Coco Grower and consider myself a student (doing my plant nr.8) -
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seems to be overwatering.
Did you wait till the pot is light before watering?
What is the nurients you use? You mentioned a Kit.
So first things to check are.. .how is the water and feed....ph level and is it still good (sitting around too long etc.) Hiw strong the feed is. If the ph is off... the plant cant eat. Next is checking the medium for over saturation...if your over watering then make sure the medium dries out completely before the next feed. Also how often are you feeding or are you just using water? Most soil guys will do water feed water feed. Feed being water mixed with nutes
Hey @lowegrow and welcome to percys buddy, what medium are you in, what nutrients are you using, what is your feeding schedule, and what are the quantities of nutes in your food, and what is the ph and ec of the feed both before you feed and the run off, that will give us a good idea of what the grow is like, also the humidity % will also help and temps in the tent 🤙🏻
Its either nitrogen or phosphorus def..... what colour are the stems off the leaves mate? If they are purple then phosphorus def, if the are green nitrogen def
But, the deficiency might be cause by something else, not just a lack of food in the medium.
Considering it has dolomite lime in it, you shouldn't have to adjust the ph at all. the top pic in particular looks worse off than the others too. Is that one plant sittting close to the fan, or a strong cold breeze from a fan?
CALMAG!! Just kidding. 😆
That looks like some major pH lockout to me my brethern. The pic below is a plant I had some issues with a while back... I was feeding it water with a pH of about 8.1 and after a couple of weeks, it was very pissed at me. What is the pH/TDS of your water that you are using to irrigate? Or are you just using water right out of the tap? Either way, my advice would be to flush the crap out of them with some very clean and pure water (like distilled or RO-treated) to rinse them out. Then continue watering as you were before using properly pH'd water. No matter how much food there is in your supersoil, if the pH is out of whack, the plant can't absorb it. If you do have alink to the mix you're using, that would be helpful as well.
Oh and one other thing - it looks a bit like your pots are sitting right on the bottom of your catch pans.. that can cause issues as well as any runoff from supersoil usually contains a large amount of dissolved nutes, and can be a little much for those bottom roots. Plus, having it sit in standing water keeping the roots wet is not a good idea either - that can cause lots of issues, most of which are tough to see without actually looking at the roots. Problems can manifest in the leaves and be confusing... lol. I use square metal grid things to keep my pots off the bottom.. might be a good idea to get something like that going as well.
This is the side.. so much yellowing taking over. The stems are red too
Yuo can tell if its root rot byt the smell of the medium mate does it smeel like rotten eggs or cheezy? Looks like phosphorus deficient
Alright well, having a look at that link, I wasn't able to track down what exactly is in their 'Suberb Soil' but they do mention they are 'standing on the shoulders of giants' which would imply to me that the recipe is probably based on Subcool/Vic High/Clackamas Coot's work. But it's hard to say, as everyone has their own 'versions', myself included haha. But suffice to say, there is definitely something going on there. And if your pH is right around 6.5, there is no reason why there should be a lockout. The yellowing does look like an N deficiency tho.. that fade. 😎
Purpling petioles can definitely be an indication of P deficiency, as long as they weren't always purple like some plants have. But I'd say you're on the right track. The leaf curl still looks like there are some unfavourable conditions underneath tho..
My suggestion would be to flush with clean water (if you haven't already), then get some either regular bone meal, fish-bone meal, or a blood/bone meal blend and top-dress with that (these prodcuts are just examples -whatever brands you have locally are just fine). And, since you have some roots exposed at the surface, it would probably be a good idea to get some plain potting soil and blend the bone/blood meal into that, and use that as a top-dress. Water as usual and you should hopefully see some improvement within 4-5 days. I should mention bat guano is probably the best option in terms of N/P content for this purpose but, I don't generally like to condone using it as it's not always the most ethically sourced stuff, and generally comes from places far far away so, not really 'organic' in the grandest sense of that term. But it is very effective stuff nonetheless.
Oh and definitely get the pot out of any standing water - the description of the kit says the 'Pot Drain Saucer acts as a reservoir and eliminates mess'. You definitely don't want your pot sitting in a reservoir, unless running a flood to drain aka ebbe and flow or other capillary-action focused type of grow, which supersoil is not. Some people like to 'bottom-water' but I think it invites more issues than it's worth. By leaving it in water to stay wet, you encourage anaerobic and anoxic (no oxygen) conditions which will kill the roots and encourage bad bacteria to start to grow. Not good.
But yes, hope this helps! 👍
Watering is always hard to advise on just because of the massive variation in plant uptake due to genetics, environmental conditions, etc.. but, my rule of thumb (that I stole from the very green thumb of Jorge Cervantes) is when the pot weighs about half as much as it does when it's fully watered and saturated, then it's time to water again. That plant definitely looks big enough to be able to wet the entirety of the medium so, you could fully water it, just until the first few drips of runoff start,and then lift it up to get an idea of how heavy it is (or actually weigh it to be super sure). So for example, if the pot weighs 4kg when fully watered, when it weighs 2kg, water again. Pretty straight-forward stuff.
It all depends on how well your medium is at retaining the water, as well as those other variables I mentioned. For a super rough comparison, when my plants get about the same size as yours in my 3 gallon (12L) pots, I usually have to water once every 2-3 days (depending on temps and humidity) using around 1-1.5L per plant. I water them just until I see the first drips of runoff.. I take this as a signal that the entire medium is now saturated and any more water would now just be wasted. In supersoil there shouldnt be a 'build-up' of salts like can happen in traditional mediums - the food is 'locked up' in the soil to be released by microbial activity/enzymes and exudates from the plant, rather than in a readily available but soluble form, easily dissolved in water and washed out of the medium, or concentrated if watering is inconsistent.
Speaking of runoff though, is there any way for you to test the pH of your runoff? Your water that you start with is good (pH 6.5) but if there is something in the soil that is messing with it, it might show in the runoff. I've had issues before where I had good growth but then it stopped suddenly (not in my cannabis but some snapdragons and other flowers). I ended up flushing the living shit out of the pot, ending up with some nasty-coloured runoff (it even stained my concrete). I kept flushing and whatever was causing the issue ended up being removed as runoff turned clear and the growth instantly picked up after that. So just a thought... but yeah. Flushing = good. Lol.
As for the 1000W light.. is that 1000W HID? Or a 1000W LED? Or a '1000W' LED? 😉 Whatever it is, I think your lighting is just fine. The green could be greener but, it may just be part of the deficiency. And new growth tends to be a little lighter green in general, until it gets a bit older and fills in with chlorophyll.
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