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Off Topic Another Legend of Cannabis passes RIP OldTimer1

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It is with much sadness I found out yesterday that one of the original OG's in the Cannabis world of breeding passed on last week...

OldTimer1 travelled widely and collected heirlooms from all over the world, which he bred to make his own crosses, some of the earliest breeding work done making modern hybrids and doing preservation work. He bred and shared genetics with the likes of Skunkman Sam, Neville and Shantibabba, making strains which included blueberrys, hazes and skunks and helped in making the foundations on which so many modern cannabis genetics are based.

There are very few of these original OG's from that golden era of Cannabis left with us, last week we lost another.Β 

Cherish what we have whilst we have it and learn what we can from our older generations whilst we still have them. Cannabis smokers whether they realise it or not, are indebted to guys like this who took great risk to do what they did, and made it so we can enjoy all the varieties of Cannabis we can today.

So when you next roll one up or pack your bowl, maybe at your next 4:20, please be upstanding and raise your spliff to OldTimer1

RIP brother

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Posted : March 7, 2022 1:57 pm
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@chillbert oooof man, another legend lost. πŸ™ RIP OldTimer, thanks you for your service!Β 

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wow.Β  Β RIPΒ  OldTimer...Β  the age of old hippies is slowly dying with the legends of cannabis.Β  Β we need to continue there legacy's with pride .Β  grow the future to respect the past.

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Another is gone but he left us a legacy with his rescued genetics. Subcool, Josey Wales, OldTimer1, … the list will continue. We are given a short lease on this earth. Make the most of it because there are no do overs. RIP Old Timer.

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Rip old-timer,we learn from lessons passed down and it's up to those with the knowledge to pass it on the the next generation so although I didn't know you personally thanks for all you did and sharing your knowledge with the world,Β 

 
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here is a quote i from OldTimer1 himself posted on the internet in 2017

it says alot about the man himself and thought ok / apt to share ..

β€œI have said most of this many times.Β 

I have collected seeds and made crosses I suspect for more years than most of you have been alive, I suppose you could call me a collector, keeping a small library of my favourite plants as mothers, from each seed batch I tried or made and grew out, I looked for new unique traits and highs.Β 

This had just been to please me, since I have been here, there has been a constant stream of people asking me to produce seeds. When I do I get asked questions that are impossible for me to answer.

I only keep the outstanding and reject all the rest, this has been my rule of thumb. Nothing in the way of records have been kept, I really don’t remember the make up of keepers it was of no importance to me. I collect and exchanged seeds from all over the world, genes that have found their way in my plants come from northern NZ, Aus, quite a few from Mexico, New Mexico, Panama, Cal and Oregon, Thailand, southern India, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Nepal and Bhutan, Malawi, Nigeria, SA are only a few that come to mind from early days, most were local strain developed and grown in the area, in other words farmed or cultivated, most did not have names.Β 

In more resent years, I exchanged beans/genes with a lot of friends in the usa and Canada, now they do have names like ae77’s CO, speed racer, trix, one hit, uw, grapefruit, skunk’s and hazes, princess, genius, Romulan and numerous others.

All this time over the years when the mood took me I would cross lines adding/combining characters I like. If the result was better a new mum would replace the parent as you can only keep so many mums.”

Now a bit about Β smile, from what I remember it has a small amount of haze, skunk, an indica from Af, a cross Mr Soul gave me, made from Princesses bro, cant remember what it was crossed with, anyhow these are some of the genes that made a mother I call Celia, there may be many more I just can’t remember, so smile is the result that something that was slowly developed and selected over the last 20 years or so, I do remember Celia replaced hd or was it hl, anyhow one of them was her mother, hd and hl started out from haze skunk crosses, but many other things were combined over the years, so its easy to say its a haze x skunk hybrid even though thats not the whole story, also the skunk and haze are not the same as the ones that went to holland. The male for smile comes from a line developed by an old friend in north london, it did have a nickname called cp [short for camden poison] I don’t have a clue what is in it, I had the seeds in cold store for 15 odd years, I can’t ask my friend as he has gone to rest at least 10 years back.

The thing is, none of the lines/genes are from names that are sold or mean a thing to anyone. All are worked/developed varieties cultivated either locally outdoors or indoors by people I have exchanged idea/genetics with over the years.Β 

At this time I don’t intend to develop smile any further, I like and I am happy with them just as they are except for one small thing. I thought you would accept them for what they are and what they do when you smoke them, to me that is the only thing that counts.

While we are at it, oldtimes is slightly more complex than has been quoted, I had been intending to make a line that replaces es or approaches her effects and potency. I used males from esb cold store beans and backcross them to their aged mother. The result were very variable, I was not happy, I crossed the best fem to a separate line of bb, the best males were then back crossed to the mother, the male that produced the best results has produce oldtimes. In the mean time I am developing the line further, the mixed pollen from best oldtimes males was backcrossed to the aged mother, this generation/cross we can call oldtimes#2 is producing a good portion of females that are closer the mother as well as some like the first gen of esb. It is looking very encouraging, not sure what the next step will be, but I don’t think the #2 generation will be a release, oldtimes has a lot of development potential IMO."

RIP legend

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Posted : March 7, 2022 3:58 pm
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