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Nerves has been replaced with excitement now mate. Bud  

Nothing better than some lovely weed after such and tense stressful situation

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Posted : October 22, 2020 8:27 pm
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Morning guys. 

Thought I'd put some photos up here rather than make a new thread. 

Here are them now. 

I've took a bit of the bottom leaves off but just the ones that were dead. 

They are defo getting bigger every time I see them  

What does everyone think? Are they ok? 

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Posted : October 23, 2020 9:58 am
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in early flower I like the bottom of the canopy to have a few yellow leaves because the leaves full off and it's less stress for the plant than pulling off the leaves, the plants will alway select the weakest leaves that receive the least light 

so kind of thins out the canopy to receive more air flower and this will really help in late flower, as the low canopy is getting a few yellow leaves I would start to increase the grow nutes for the next 2 weeks

the plants will take a week to notice the change and you will continue to get a few more yellow leaves (base on you giving the plants a low amout of bottle nutes) 

the good thing is the root mass will be very healthy and no build up of salt in the soil at this stage.

If your main stem gets thick puple strip down the stem your ph is out of range.

 

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Posted : October 23, 2020 10:14 am
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Yeah man I'm trying to leave as much leaves on as possible especially as I've added Bloom to its water. 

Still using the Calmag and the Grow as well but it's a low amount so I'm not too worried. 

I'll keep an eye out for that mate stem looks good just now but will certainly keep an eye out in future. 

I've never gave them full nutes always been on a reduced amount but would I be better with same amount of grow and calmag but give them the full ml of Bloom or upping the amount to everything? 

 

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Posted : October 23, 2020 11:42 am
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Up the bloom to 3/4 and lower the grow to 1ml per ltr...they look fine Smile

 

As Jacks mentioned, the lack of light will be a factor rather than the lack of Nitrogen, rest of plant is nice and green...wait for stretch to finish and do a trim of the small buds as it will force nutes to main ones, lower 3rd of leaves as they're not required in flower and will allow more airflow. try and spread them a little too to get maximum light penetration

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Posted : October 23, 2020 12:54 pm
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@zn

I'll start doing that next feed mate.

How long does the stretch usually last? Couple of weeks? 

Constantly doubting how they are looking. Hence why I'm on here half the time lol. 

 

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Posted : October 23, 2020 3:08 pm
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Up the bloom to 3/4 and lower the grow to 1ml per ltr...they look fine Smile

 

As Jacks mentioned, the lack of light will be a factor rather than the lack of Nitrogen, rest of plant is nice and green...wait for stretch to finish and do a trim of the small buds as it will force nutes to main ones, lower 3rd of leaves as they're not required in flower and will allow more airflow. try and spread them a little too to get maximum light penetration

great advice @zn, would have given the same advice but I have been ripped apart on other sites for given this advice ( letting the bottom 3rd of the canopy turn yellow and fall off, often done this and my buds have looked amazing in late flower.

also great advice about opening the canopy up but would say keep shorter shoots in the middle under the bulb and pull longer shoots to the outside of the. canopy (this alone can increase the crop by 20% as all the buds get more light)

keep hood about 18" above the shoots directly below the bulb and a fan aiming at the bulb will help to keep the canopy cool 

often thought about giving the plants honey in late flower (1 tbsp in some hot water  and mix it in 5ltr of cold water to make the buds more sweet) last 2 weeks in flower.

 biobizz  bloom has a  low ec level

grow has a high ec level 

top max is basically water 

calmag is very high ec

good things to bare in mind when feeding the plants

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Posted : October 23, 2020 3:29 pm
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I don't think your plants are in true flower(buds just starting to form)

so you could have 2-3 weeks left.

your plants are looking very healthy,  just a little too bushy and tall at this stage, a little lst will fix this.

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Posted : October 23, 2020 5:06 pm
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Sound advice mate. Those others sites are all hydro mascots hence why I stay on this lol. 

Yeah i know I need a little lst I've just never done it before so dont really know what I'm doing. 

I've got some safety pins and some plastic ties which I was going to loop round the shoots and use the safety pins to hold it in place but it was hard to see cause it's so bushy lol 

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hydro is a great way to grow plants but its not cost effective and there no guarantee you can get better results or harvests.

To lst a shoots, you pull them down and  to the side and use the tie to hold them in place, most shoots will be pulled down about 3-4"

I would pull the tall shoots to the opposite side of the pot, need to get them shorter or keep them to the sides of the tent but not touching the sides in late flower, use some upright support, because if they lean on the tent it will trap the moisture and cause bud rot in late flower (done it loads of times )

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Posted : October 23, 2020 5:42 pm
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Yeah I dont really know anyone that does hydro it's always seemed like too much equipment for me. You cant really move it quickly and yeah you can grow some nice stuff with it but like you said not really cost effective. 

I'll give the lst a go tomorrow mate. I've been putting it off but will need to start soon. 

Cheers mate 

 

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Posted : October 23, 2020 6:33 pm
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my plant just under 2 weeks in flower 12/12 ( buds just starting to form)

The canopy about 12" high and I would like it to finish between 18"-30" high (above the pots) 

because of the penetration of indoor lights is very weak.

plants any higher than 30" will just waste energy getting water and food to the buds/leaves.

 

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Posted : October 23, 2020 7:09 pm
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Thatd be sweet mate. My light is at its highest point but I can lower it if needed. I've never measured it but there is  still prob 3/4 m of space above the canopy just now. 

Prob watch some LST videos tonight and give it a go tomorrow. 

I'm worried as the stretch hasnt even started really so if I dont get a grip on it soon then they could start to get out of hand.   

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Posted : October 23, 2020 7:33 pm
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@new-at-this since you mentioned stretch , thought I'd caution one thing that is a common mistake for newer growers. Avoid any defoliation at this stage if you can. If you remove significant amounts of foliage the plant will start even more growth to replace it causing more stretch. Even though you haven't mentioned this yet it's something to keep in mind to avoid a problem. Pinching out the tops is OK if you want to increase the number of colas and doing it won't cause excessive stretch like removing leaves can tho.. Hope we aren't throwing too much at you all at once.

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Posted : October 23, 2020 7:45 pm
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I took some leaves off today mate but these were dead and only came off when I touched them. 

Lol not at all mate  at the start I definitely felt overwhelmed as there was so much I hadnt really considered but through this site I feel more relaxed about it all. I'm clearly creating a good environment for them so excited to see what the end result will be. 

I've already topped the main stem on each plant once but done no lst so they are a bit wayward just now lol. 

Will sort that out tomorrow.  

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Posted : October 23, 2020 7:57 pm
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