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mcj27
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Hello everyone,

I am a little confused on LED lighting. I have a TS600w with additional veg/bloom switches. 

Now, the rating plate says 600watt however ive been told that its only a 100watt output!!

Surely its a 600 watt output but as its LED only uses 100W of actual power??

I have researched LED lights for growing and keep coming across the same issue???

Any advice would be appreciated.

MCJ27

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Topic starter Posted : May 14, 2021 1:38 pm
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I have the same problem with LED mate lol. I jsut look at watt the flor space it covers. The Mars hydro TS2000 is equivelent to a 600w HPS... nearly lol. The TS600 is good for about 60cm x 60cm of space i think, hope this helps man, Im sure some one else can help more lol 


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Posted : May 14, 2021 1:49 pm
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It's very deceiving, and they lie. The ones the are legit will show you what watts are being drawn. The others will tell you that your gonna get 10,000 watts for next to nothing. But we know nothings free and quality comes with a price. So if you want something good (quality) then be prepared to pay. Remember, good quality goes a long way and last. So it is an investment, choose wisely.                peace

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Posted : May 14, 2021 2:05 pm
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mcj27
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@macky Thanks macky. its proper confusing lol. 

Im on my 3rd go so far. Wrong Light, wrong soil. Doin me head in apart from costing a small fortune.

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Topic starter Posted : May 14, 2021 2:06 pm
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Next on the list is medium???

Ive (stupidly) been using a standard compost from a garden centre. I now realise that the plants ended up with too much nitrogen with very dark leaves and never went into bud stage.

Any Ideas on the best type of medium (New grower remember)

Thank you thank you thank you

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Topic starter Posted : May 14, 2021 2:12 pm
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Watts are a confusing one in terms of lighting...and manufacturers do it this way on purpose...esp. the cheaper ones

The done thing in the standard lighting market is, 5w LED bulb is 'equivalent' to 50w tungsten filament bulb...this is not done in horticultural lights...i.e 600w is the selling point even though the current draw is only 150w...the 'equivalent' part is conveniently missed out

Watts are a measurement of electricity used to make the lights work, not the amount of light produced, light is measured in photon density and this does not convert to watts

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Posted : May 14, 2021 2:16 pm
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Posted by: @mcj27

Im on my 3rd go so far. Wrong Light, wrong soil. Doin me head in apart from costing a small fortune.

This is the issue many face when starting out, the interwebs are full of BS...certain people will big up certain manufacturers regardless of the total shyte they produce

We dont do that here...if its shit, we'll tell you LoL

Soil or Coco...would be heading towards Canna on both...Canna Terra for Soil or Canna Coco for, well, Coco...along with the nutes intended for them...Canna good stuff

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Posted : May 14, 2021 2:19 pm
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@zn Hey ZN,

You are telling me!!! You dont know what or who to believe, one tells ya 1 thing and so on....

I went on a forum yesterday, what a bunch they were, per Madonna know it all's who dont want to advise, just take the p...

I want to spend the next couple of days here hopefully get to know what i need to know lol.

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Topic starter Posted : May 14, 2021 2:26 pm
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No BS here at all mate...we dont allow it LoL  

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Posted : May 14, 2021 2:29 pm
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mcj27
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@zn would that be a 50/50 mix?

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Topic starter Posted : May 14, 2021 2:40 pm
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Posted by: @mcj27

@zn would that be a 50/50 mix?

If thats a question about 50/50 mix of soil & coco, then no...pick one 😉

 

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Posted : May 14, 2021 2:47 pm
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mcj27
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@zn Perfect! Ill go for soil 1st i think, what nutes would suit this soil pls?

Sorry for the constant bombardment.... Im off to the grow shop tomoz lol 

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Topic starter Posted : May 14, 2021 2:55 pm
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No worries mate, its why were here Smile

Canna Terra Pro is the one you want, not necessary to even feed veg nutes so the Vega below is not really needed, but you can supplement the added nutes...anything 18ltrs or more in terms of pot will guarantee minimum 4 weeks of veg feed available...makes life easy

Nutes

Canna Rhizotonic for roots, initial growth

Canna Vega A+B Veg nutes

Canna Flores A+B Flower nutes

Canna PK 13/14 Flower Booster

Thats all you need, no Ph up/down unless your tap water is far away from 7.0

Ecothrive Biosys Tea is a good addition too if you want to spend a little more 😉 

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Posted : May 14, 2021 3:07 pm
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mcj27
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Absolute top man, this won't be the last of me for sure, got a decent shopping list for now.

Thanks again u

 

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Topic starter Posted : May 14, 2021 3:23 pm
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@mcj27 this is an annoying situation. Firstly, Mars doesn’t make bad lights. They make nice entry-level lights. They aren’t the best, but they aren’t the most expensive either.

 

What all the import manufacturers do is the build a light with X amount of LED chips (say 100 for this example). They look at the maximum wattage those chips are rated for, and multiply that by the number of chips. Usually 5 watts will be the maximum rated wattage. They multiply the maximum wattage by the number of chips to get 500 watts. In actuality, they will put .5 watts to each chip, because if they put the maximum wattage to them they would burn out very quickly.

Mars is in a tough spot because they’re competing with other import manufacturers who lie through their teeth about light performance ($80 lights that cover 10’x10’ canopies), but they don’t really make a premium product either.

Truth is you have to spend a fair bit of money to get good LED lights; although, watch out because there are plenty of companies that will take a hefty sum for bad lights too.

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