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@woodi2 thnx Thumbs Up  

 
Posted : March 26, 2022 7:23 am
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@macky thnx Thumbs Up  

 
Posted : March 26, 2022 7:26 am
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@pc420 Welcome to Percys mate! I am a big fan of Autos, I like to rotate my strains so I am never getting bored with a profile. I live in a prohibition country so as stealth as possible is key and autos are king in that department. 

To answer your question however, for me personally I always plant into their forever home. I do this because I find that with autos to yield well they need those roots to start and finish undisturbed, by starting them in a cube you introduce multiple stressors that can effect the development of the root system. If I run photo periods its a different story as I will start in small pots and re pot them, but I can just keep the photo periods in veg to recover, a luxury not afforded to autos.

To get the absolute best out of autos you need to keep those first 4 weeks as close to perfect as it can be, so personally I don't like introducing stress to the root system so I can train them earlier than most would. All that being said, If it is easier for you to start in the coir disks then go for it. I think that for a new grower the seedling starters are excellent, it takes a lot of the guess work out of it and makes it a lot easier for the new grower to keep correct moisture levels etc at that early age. As you progress through a few more grows and learn the plants cycles more you will find ways that work for you and can tweak the extras later, starting them in their forever homes can be difficult and is a more grower input intensive way of starting them. So in a long winded rant kind of way to answer your question, best for new growers - use the cubes. When you have more time and or a seed you can afford to experiment with then try starting in the final pot.

Most of all have fun! either way works so pick which is better for you time and confidence wise. Hope that helps.      

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Posted : March 26, 2022 8:12 am
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thank you, good advice & easy to understand, one question as far as the light schedule what should I have them on, "now" as they get a bit bigger I have heard to give them as much light as possible, but also a bit of dark to let them rest a little bit too. so I was thinking 18/6  now than when they start to flower 20 /4  I have a hydromars tsw 2000  light setup w/  3  smaller grow lights on the corners of my   4X4 vivasun tent approx.8 ft high.

 
Posted : March 26, 2022 10:35 am
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@pc420 I run 18/6 or 20/4 the entire run, I find they respond better with a slightly longer rest period and yield isn't hugely different between the two, but your power bill will be. Again this can be one of those no real right answer as technically you could run 24/0 and have zero issues so it really is what you as the grower prefer, as long as they are getting more than 12 hours of light your good to go, granted they will yield better with more light hours however for me I find the sweet spot is 18/6 for yield and potency while still maintaining plant health overall. 

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Posted : March 26, 2022 10:53 am
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hi, another question do you think i should have my mars hydro  set at 100 %  or at 75 % right now it's at 75 % and their still seedlings  I also still have a dome over them should I leave it on or take it off ?  I also was told ( w/ auto's ) that once they start to flower give them as much light as you can , so I was gonna turn on my 3 other grow lights I have in the corners when they start to flower. can you let me know Face ? thnx

 
Posted : March 26, 2022 11:10 pm
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@pc420 I would have it at 100% with no domes over them. Once they shoot out the ground they need a nice breeze blowing at them to strengthen the stems. Without the breeze they will stretch too much

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Posted : March 26, 2022 11:39 pm
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@macky thank you Thumbs Up  

 
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@pc420 Just remember there is a thing as too much when it comes to light, and to be honest in very late flower I am actually starting to lower the intensity not raise it. There is a threshold that you get too where the extra light is detrimental without c02 supplementation. As @macky said, I would have that Mars hydro running full blast and adjusting its height above canopy rather than adjusting the power level of the light, those lights are great for home growers as you can run them flat out on their own without needing to add c02, also have a look at the manufacturers specs for the lights you are wanting to add in, you may find your adding extra light for no reason, a healthy plant is much more likely to produce a decent quality yield under a 200 watt light flat out than trying to squeeze 4 lights into a tent and then having to adjust your environment to account for the extra lumens and heat produced. As you are a newer grower I would be focusing on getting a run down with enough light to effectively cover your canopy, each light will have a flower and veg footprint, usually the footprint shrinks as you move from veg to flower ie 5ftx5ft veg and 4ftx4ft flower. I understand the idea behind what you want to do and in theory yes more light is better in flower however if you cannot effectively manage the heat then you will find the quality will suffer. Well in my experience with autos I have found this to be true, but experiment if you feel comfortable too and have some plants you can spare. 

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Posted : March 27, 2022 2:11 am
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@bubblehok tnx for your input I'm still a bit confused as far as what I should keep my mars hydro tsw 2000  lights at .  (their at 100% now ) My  seedlings are still under  a loose covering of coconut coir in those little  coconut coir seed starter pods ( I planted  the seeds after germination once they popped  into those little seed starter pods) so soon as they poke thru the coconut coir I was going to put / plant  the pod n all in their forever pots ( 5 gal. fabric pots ) as for Co 2 I'm too new to this for monitoring  any new procedures . the  3 extra smaller lights  I have in the  3 corners of the tent also have switches on them  for each stage  ie: seedlings / veg / flower/  right now their about 2   2 1/2 feet from the mars light  & I have 3 sm. fans inside too.I'm not sure what temp is ideal & what humidity is good too. please let me know if I should change anything ? Pray  

 
Posted : March 27, 2022 9:46 am
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