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Massive lol. 

Looks like the air stone is tangled there? That needs to be at the bottom of the pot to make sure all the water is being aerated. 

I would still think over feeding was the issue. Can you get an EC meter mate? 

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@macky I have two airstones in there. One goes in through the bucket and one goes in through a hole where the hydroton is at. Yes I'll buy it right now

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@rgrctea Cool, that will help alot with knowing what's going on in the res.

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@macky The meters you put on your list aren't available for me to purchase on amazon right now. Trying to choose a different one. Is this one fine? https://www.amazon.com/Bluelab-BLU2221-ppm-Plant-Germination/dp/B005IGXOK4/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=ec%2Bmeter&qid=1585654448&sr=8-14&th=1

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@rgrctea I ordered from Amazon on the weekend... delivery date April 27 and I'm a prime member 😥 

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@hart But a Prime Member that lives on the moon right? Fuck lol 

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@macky This is the message I got, usually get orders within a week...

"Amazon is focused on the health and safety of our associates and based on regional regulations and social distancing requirements this has resulted in extended response times. We ask for your patience in this challenging time as our teams work to deliver this vital service to customers everywhere, especially to those, like the elderly, who are most vulnerable.

Find answers to how orders and deliveries are affected by COVID-19 here. Many of your inquiries can be self-served through our Help resources. You can track your orders and deliveries, return a product, manage your Prime account, and get help for your Amazon devices.

We apologize for the inconvenience."

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@hart Just order some face mask yesterday! Thats means they wont be here until corona is over lol 

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yes, perfect mate! A good buy

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I run my dwc water temperature at 65-68 degrees at all times from start to finish using a chiller

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Brown leaves are getting into the buds now. I don’t think anything I do is going to help. I’m flushing it and chopping it next week

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@rgrctea

Its a shame man, but sometimes it's just best to start again and try not to do it this time round Smile You need a good EC meter to make it easier to diagnose these things. You will be able to monitor if the plant is eating too much or not enough Smile

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@rgrctea i dunno why but im still feeling like it was a ph issue. the roots looking fine in that pic... i dunno what it could be.

usually tho when ph gets out of whack, particularly acidic like in the mid to high 4's that kinda huge multi-deficiency crispy dead leaf comes in FAST. usualy tho when you catch it in DWC you do a rez change and it halts. the leaves never recover but for indoor plants they usualy have enough leaves to still build the buds.

i honestly dont know tho.... such a strange one

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@rgrctea i dunno why but im still feeling like it was a ph issue. the roots looking fine in that pic... i dunno what it could be.

usually tho when ph gets out of whack, particularly acidic like in the mid to high 4's that kinda huge multi-deficiency crispy dead leaf comes in FAST. usualy tho when you catch it in DWC you do a rez change and it halts. the leaves never recover but for indoor plants they usualy have enough leaves to still build the buds.

i honestly dont know tho.... such a strange one

I agree mate. Think being over fed, the ph was rising in the res, then with the reduction in the EC, caused the salts to flow back in too raising the ph again. It most likely a pH issue cause by a salt imbalance i think. Less is more. 

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@macky here’s the other one. Was put in the bucket about 2 weeks after the first one. Should I just trash this one and start over? I am using the same general hydroponics feeding schedule that is from growweedeasy(dot)com. It seems like I can’t really get the hang of it in any medium. I’ve tried soil, coco, and now this dwc. Coco I couldn’t get the plants to get over 3 inches tall and they would just turn yellow and die. Wasted 15 seeds and a lot of coco trying that out. I really don’t want to buy weed from the streets, anything I find around here is infested with bugs

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@rgrctea Get The EC meter and we will easily be able to bring that one to harvest mate. She doesn't look bad. Maybe a bit calcium deficient, but nothing major. 

If you want to go with coco again, ill talk you through the grow step by step mate, coco is the medium i grow in and I rate it as one of the best and easiest. You just need to have the numbers and methods explained to you Smile

 

 

 

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@macky Yea I might wanna try coco out again but that would be in a while. EC meter should be here Monday, just checked the tracking👍

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@rgrctea Epic, everything will be ok then mate Smile It will really help

YOu see, in DWC, the plant will drink water and bring in  a certain amount of food. If it drinks more than it eats, the food gets left behind, and the EC rises, and will cause the pH to rise too. This causes problems

If it eats more than it drinks, then the EC will fall, and this will not only make the plant hungry, but also, leech nutrients out of the plant, and into the water to find balance. 

For really healthy plants in DWC or any water based hydro, you have to be able to monitor the EC< then you know

PH and EC fluctuations in Hydroponics
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whats going on Smile

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@macky Alright EC meter just got here. What should my first move be? Fresh res change?

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@rgrctea

Excellent!!! First off, mix up anew res, and then Check the Ec and come back and let me know what it is Smile

 

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@macky Just changed the res up. Ph is 5.8 and EC is 1.2

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@rgrctea

Thats a decent level for now mate, lets see what happens in 24 hours. Check the res again, and see if the EC is falling a rising Smile

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@macky Ph is 6.5 and ec is 0.8

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