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StarCodex
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Good morning percy growers. 

What an absolute glorious day it is here. Its so nice i took my 3 big bud autos into my en suite for some real light interference.

I'm not particularly happy with them as I wish I'd trained them. But I'll get there. 

One particular plant looks like she is in the early stages of something. At first i thought she looked a bit pale (which was last week) the other two look fine.

This is the feeding pattern that they've had so far

Water 

Water 

Water 

 

Per 2 litre bottle 

1ml top max + 1ml grow

water 

1ml top max + 1ml grow 

Water

1ml top max + 1ml grow

Water

2 ml top max + 2 ml grow

Water 

3 ml grow

These plants have been on plain tap water since day 1 they're on day 32. This one plant in question is showing what I thought at first was nitrogen deficient. Now I'm swinging to excess but I just don't know.

Looking at my feeding pattern so far would that be too much grow nutrients to start with. I'd haven't had thought so because of how weak my solutions were up until my last feed of 3 ml per 2 litre. The bottle reads 1-4ml per litre yet I've been following a 2 litre guideline so my feeds would have been weak up until the one at 3 ml per 2 litre. But still this would have been a weak solution. 

Seedstockers big bud auto day 32

Soil is Jack's magic 

7litre pots

14 inches from led 

Humidity 60%

Temps 22 off / 27.6 on

PH run off 6.5

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Should I add a higher dose of N to my next feed. Or what do you recommend. 

Thanks 

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Think you're looking more like a little bit of a calcium def mate. 

Little boost of some cal mag, just a bit like 0.5ml per litre will be enough, and she should pic up fine. 😉

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Thinking about it now. 

Phosphorous deficient anyone 

So 1ml of cal mag in a 2 litre bottle of water and today things have gotten alot worse.

I think from now on I need to go back to what I know. Ever since the upgrades everything is going wrong for me. I had better results with my 125w cfl grows when I first started out and only using bloom nutes.

My god.. 

You know what's so frustrating is that for the first few years when I started growing there was no cal mag or fuck all problems. 

Now with experience and £1000's spent everything is fucked. 

 

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@thestars This is the way it goes sometimes man, when you change something, it can be like learning to grow all over again. 

If it was Phosphorus deficient, there would be more problems on the lower leaves too mate, rather than just the middle. Seeing as the problem is in the middle of the plant, its more likely to be an immobile nutrients , like, zinc, boron, them micronutrients. 

It could be a pH issue, how is the ph of the medium looking?

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I was going to say PH too Macky Maybe lower the next ph feed?

I've not found anything cheap but reliable to check my medium PH or would you check run off Macky?

I get just disheartened seeing other people with problems as much as when I do my own. 

Hope you get it sorted man and they look better soon. 

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Maybe also they're root bound?

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Have you tried to flush the soil with PH'd water?  Usually when I start to notice an issue developing I will do a good flush with water ive PH'd to about 6.3 in soil.

Ive had the soils PH jump up to 8 on a couple plants. I use a soil probe to keep an eye on my soil it may not be the most accurate but it will show if the soil has changed from what it normally reads as i dont check run off.

Are you using an air stone or leaving the water to sit for 24 hours to help remove chlorine,

Good luck star hope you get it sorted soon

 

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When last checked the Ph RO is 6.4 I decided to flush her days ago and she just doesn't look like she wants to be happy... Again... What's funny is that one of my other plants that looks fresh and healthy reads a pH RO of 7.2...

So This lady along with the others got dumped in my garden. They can please themselves now I'm actually sick fed up of growing now. Continued fucking problems on ever bloody grow

Maybe I should listen to myself and go back to cfls because ever since I've had my invisible sun kit every has gone tits up. I mean these led quantum boards can be too intense and you strictly have to have yer lights at a 18 inch minimum. I'm starting to think that it's the actual light that's causing me problems. The light intensity causes the plant to want more of everything. More water, more humidity. More nutrients. More more more. 

And I must stress.

Growing when you don't have weed to smoke is hard work.some of you already know this lol... And it's even more hard work when I cannot seem to solve my own problems. I don't think there are mentors available on this forum and it's a mentor that I need before I decide to jack in the growing operations.

This is killing me and its not fun any more. In fact I think I'm going to punt the fucking invisible sun light right now. At the end of the day it's definitely no use to me when I only have 160cm in height to play with. Ahh but hold on lst would sort this. 

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@thestars I almost lost both my outdoors last year and Macky helped me right along. Dont give up man....you'll get em back you just gotta go through the motions. Its frustrating sometimes but a mentor here will help if you ask. @templegrower is a soil grower too. He may know something to help ya out aswell as the other guys in here. 

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Posted by: @thestars

I don't think there are mentors available on this forum

There are mentors mate, you just gotta ask for one 😉

And when you get one it is very important to follow the instructions your mentor gives you. To the T. 

IS light are very intense, and because of it the plants use more nutrients, and most of all, more calcium. When you grow under intense LED's you need to add more calcium to the feed than a usual grow especially CFLs. CFL'S are less intense by far, so you may not have seen those problem arise so much. 

It can be very frustrating at times man, I feel your pain. Moving to a new light or medium can be like learning to row all over again. 

You've only just come back from a Hiatus, when you are looking to start a fresh grow, ask for a mentor mate, and we can get you though this shit together. Just ask for more help when you need it, your not alone mate, we all have these problems. But together we can work thorugh them and get the plants back on track 

Also, soil is a pain in the arse 😉 Jump onto this coco train with me bro lol. 

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I feel your frustration mate!! I have been gardening all my life but have limited experience growing Cannabis indoors and there can be significant information to learn. Growing with cfl bulbs is easier because the low energy cfl lights don’t push the plants very hard. The big negative is the low yield of a cfl grow. Your LED light is a great upgrade but it is also more for the plant to handle and the increased plant demands means you adjust the nutes and environment to fit the grow and your new light. You have to feed plants under leds a little differently. I also grow in a 160cm height with an incredible intensity of led grow lights and have never run out of space for the light to be the proper height. Don’t give up on yourself. It’s a frustrating learning curve sometimes but the rewards of the acquired knowledge is well worth the time invested. 

I’d offer more than encouraging words if I could but I’m not familiar with the products you are using so I could do more damage than good because of that. With under 3 years experience I still am not a nutrient expert, far from it actually, but am still able to grow enough meds to manage my needs. I’m still looking for that one perfect run that nothing goes bad, but it hasn’t happened for me yet. You might fail once or twice but you will never succeed if you give up mang. Most of all, give yourself permission to make mistakes and commit to learning from them. You have great potential mate.

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Thank you thank you

Some nice words of encouragement.

I think the real problem is me going through some of the worst withdrawal symptoms I've ever had.

I'm extremely agitated with constant restless leg syndrome. And with the lockdown I'm starting to worry about stuff. 

But I just found out that the soil used by my current 5 seedstockers big bud autos is actually soil from a previous grow. I completely forgot about this. I remember when I potted them up so many weeks ago I couldn't get soil or perlite anywhere other than online because of the lockdown And I needed soil ASAP. I remember reading how this dude in America was reusing his soil. So that's what I did. I'd have preferred not to have done this. Now thinking about it, is this why I'm getting problems atm. 

Ahh ffs. 

Still I'd love the assistance and thanks to each an everyone of you for the replies. I think I already asked tg if he would be kind enough to mentor me and I believe he didn't have the time then when I mentioned it. Think I even asked you macky and it was you that said to ask tg

I even think I asked zn lol but nobody wants to mentor me. That's OK because I'm not a likeable kinda guy anyway. That's my mental health kicking in. 

However after reading your pm twisted you have made me feel a wee bit excited 

Thank you everyone. X

 

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@thestars Np happy we can brighten you day, Lock down is affecting us all in some way or another.

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@twisted1Lock down is affecting us all in some way or another” couldn’t agree more. It’s getting really old......

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I even think I asked zn lol but nobody wants to mentor me. That's OK because I'm not a likeable kinda guy anyway.

Is not that at all mate. We like to see some one around here for a while, and get to know them first. Are they going to follow instructions, will they be around, will they ask for help when they need it. These are things we all need to know before we ask mentors dedicate our time to a student. 

It can be very frustrating for a mentor to have a student who doesn't listen or drops out half way through. I'm not saying this is the case with you, but in general, this is why we are not in a rush to mentor people mate, its nothing personal. 

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@macky

i understand. Your right enough

 

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Thinking about what you said mcky dude. I totally understand where your coming from. I'd have been on here alot more if I wasn't such a nutter. And bringing unwanted attention my way. 

But like you say I had a hiatus. Never heard of that word before
 
I'm definitely willing to dedicate all the time that I have to allow someone to mentor me because in my situation this is starting to affect me to the point where I feel like killing myself because cannabis is my secret lover and its very important for me to continue my affair. But don't worry I've got a lovely daughter and a angry son like his dad. I'm not going to do anything silly. But it gives you an example of how awful things are getting for me.

I should really stop smoking weed because it's now fucking my life up. where when I run out I'm like a demon. Too many relapses for me. Not good for anyone.

I'm a happy and very loyal Linda guy though.

I've had some whisky tonight so please excuse the alcohol because I hate the stuff but I like whisky.

Before I go. Thank you.

I've a wee story if I can remember.

I'm a bit drunk wo hooo

My first grow was back in the summer of 2012 decided on paradise seeds Pandora and a white berry followed by a cream caramel auto by the one an only sweet seeds. 

I germinated the seedlings in soil. No paper towel method or anything. 5 days later they popped..
The seedlings then went inside the cupboard where my hot water tank was.. Afterwards they went into a different cupboard. (me and my partner were in a private let. And I decided to go in my attic an cut a hole the size of a football directly below this cupboard. I didn't have a temperature meter or anything. I was just relying on room temperature. There was no intake or exhaust. Just that hole I cut in the ceiling.

Afterwards I repotted them using the same soil as described below. I used a 125w blue for veg and then added a red 300w cfl for flower and without a reflector
Just hung vertically.
I was using 7 litre pots and that attractive light blue bag of westlands multipurpose compost with added John innes. And just plant magic old timers bloom. I think at times I only fed those plants twice and using 2 ml per litre. Or was it 2 litres. After 69 days I harvested the cc. I got 49 grams from her. On day 82 the Pandora and white Berry came down. Both plants got mixed up and after drying I had 116 grams .

I've got pics somewhere so I'll se about showcasing them.

I also gave these plants black strap mollases. And I didn't even flush. I didn't bother curing either because the smell from them after I dried them was mind blowing. When I think back to then. An look at myself now. It's like wtf is going on. This is why I'd be extremely loyal to anyone that would mentor me because it's fucking important that I get this right otherwise I'm going to go mental. I'm a head case as it is. 😬 An I might just throw myself head first into the Buckie harbour lmao. If any of you know where Buckie is of course.

And your the star twisted for taking the time out to take a ride with me
And macky the idea of coco seems easier. I'm paranoid to order that in the post.

But.
Thank you. I'll get round to my Mise en place later on tomorrow.

I've just started off 4 bnc critical xxl autos again by seedstockers I love how there the sister company of Dutch passion. Cheessus that's 9 plants I have on the go now. And I've got sweet seeds gelato autos coming in the post. I was going to start these off too but then I'd get banned lol.

Right I'll stop there this is becoming a hoor a long post.

Thank you everyone.

Here's the ones I started off in my greenhouse. They seem to love the diffused sun light.

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They are off to a good start Brother

 

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My art teacher in grade ten 
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artist is truly frustrated. Wehave all been there bro, I
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ourselves growers, and another ten to perfect it. Getting
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What the fuck button did I hit for that post lol

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@fukentokin Think you chose the text editor instead of the visual. 

The text box for replies has been changed now to remove that option, it wasnt getting used. So it shouldnt happen again 🙂

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