Right nuits and timings advice pls
Hi Percy's 🙂
Everyone seems to use nuits in different ways and at stages that can vary from the Guides, so I'd just like to be clear before I start.
I'm going to be using Dutch Pro nutes A&B (ordering next week)
1) At what stages do you start/stop the A&B? I think you start at Flip and stop 2 weeks before Harvesting?
2) Zombie mentioned the Shogun Silicone during the podcast- I'd like to use it as I read up on it and it seems great at preventing a lot of issues, but do you only use silicone during veg stage or throughout the grow? (the bottle seems to indicate for a whole grow, not just a stage if it).
3) I have read that Calmag shouldn't be used under hps lights? Why is this and will the A&B on it's own be all I need from Eve's Flip? (in 1 - 2 weeks)
Any advice be good, thanks
If anybody could steer me right on this, I'd appreciate it. I know the guides are choc full of information...I have read through them all....but that's the problem = too much information.
I have obviously looked at the guidance on "How To Use" on the product sites and labels..but again...they vary and often contradict each other.
I just want to confirm the minimum needed in the above questions, if someone can help?
@alij68 Hey Ali, hope you and Eve are doing well. Obviously like you my knowledge is still limited so in terms of question 2 and 3 - dont know mate lol however with question 1, I didnt add any nutes until about 10-14 days after id transplanted as was just letting the plants use the nutes in the soil (I think you're using soil arent you so that worked for me) however that was still a few weeks fore I flipped as wanted to get some extra N in there for the veg stage. Im gonna keep giving nutes until 2 weeks before harvest at which point I will start flushing with just pH'd tap water for the final 2 weeks.
All the above has seemed to work well for me so far. I could send you the feed schedule ive used however I use GHE trio so probably wont match with your nutes plus I use cal-mag so depending on your answer to your 3rd question, you may not want to use that anyway.
Hope that helps, in a tiny way anyway lol.
I’ll offer what information I can Ali.
As far as the question of silicon, it’s mostly there to make stems stronger and such. It can also help toughen the plant some making it more difficult for insects to eat it, but it won’t stop them completely lol. I personally don’t use it. In my tent the plants end up touching the tent walls and the combination of a support ring and the tent walls work well for my needs. If you do use it I’d stop using it after the plant has finished stretch. By then the stems are strong enough to manage and I like using less stuff if I can.
You can start A&B anytime after the first true leaves form but because you are in soil you might not need it for a while. When you do decide to start it I would recommend 1/4 strength the very first use just to ease Eve into the routine. After that 1/2 strength every other time is good unless you are trying to correct a problem.
Cal/Mag eventually comes into play with most cannabis grows. If the soil wasn’t properly fortified initially you will eventually see a need for either/or calcium or magnesium in the grow. If the need is magnesium you can use either Epsom salts or cal/mag. LED lights are high energy lights and using them does increase the need for cal/mag. I don’t run HPS because of my environment so can’t comment on those. Some nutes have cal/mag included and that might be enough for HPS. I’m not the person to say yes or no on this point.
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@redeyejedi Hey ,thanks Red. Yeah we're doing good thanks Bro (and I can see you and yours are doing super well) 🙂 . Yep we're both learning it all at the same time (your results being significantly better, with a proper diary ,unlike me lol) You're right, I'm using Canna Pro soil, great stuff, but Eve needs more now. Was gonna flip her at 4 weeks tomorrow but think she needs longer.
Is GHE a brand name?
I'd still be interested in seeing the schedule, everything helps..even when it doesn't....if ya get me haha.
Yer being in soil Ali, you have to wait until the plant is hungry before adding more nuits to the soil. But once a n b has started you will use it for the whole grow.
No need for any fancy added stuff right now. Stick to the basics. All we want is the a n b, and some pk, which the dutch pro explode will do fine.
As monkey said you might need some calcium further down the lone, but thats a maybe you have to see how that goes, there might be plenty in the soil already.
Lets see a recent pic so we can see if she needs feeding or not
@monkeydo Thanks for all that information, Monkey, very useful and it gives me a better idea of the way to go. I agree about lights and I'm hoping to get LED once I have all that I need to grow Eve to the end. The Philizon 600w is affordable and get's good reviews (unless I win the Vault comp , which'd be even better! hahaaa).
Okay, that really helps, I like to use the minimum required, due to both my philosophy on growing and a limited budget.
One last nuits question= *Aside of fixing any problems* - Do you only use nuits in the normal watering routine for your plant (every few days with Eve) or do you have to give set amounts at set times to keep levels a certain way?
@monkeydo Macky has provided the answer to that question before I'd replied to you lol....ya all great 🤩
@alij68 I’ll save you some time and money. Don’t waste your time with the Philizon 600w. I have two of them that were used for only one run. They will grow weed but I’d highly recommend the Mars TS or SP lights. Under the white leds my buds are bigger and tighter than with blurple lights. The philizon lights have a spot on the shelf and not so much a regular spot in the tent.
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@alij68 Thanks mate. Still always anxious im gonna cock it up lol but yeah over the moon with them so far
Yeah its General Hydroponics range. Its pretty easy to get hold of and so far it seems to of worked well.
Ive posted a picture of what ive fed and when below for you. Its probably a bit anal and well over the top but like ive said to you before, id forget if I didnt write it all down lol and its helped me keep track of it all. All the measurements are per 1 US Gallon (3.8l) - I nicked the nute levels off a video I saw on YouTube and the grower was from the US hence the US gallon measurement.
@macky I'd just asked Monkey about that, before I saw your reply, lol, that really helps. With these answers, I now feel that I have a clear idea on the minimum Eve will need, thanks muchly, Macky. Here's Eve's latest pic. The newer growth at the bottom is drooping a bit, and has slightly yellow edges (Nitrogen deficiency?). The rest looks pretty lush now 😊 Took me ages to get the pic uploaded..man I hate this phone. lol
@redeyejedi Mate, that's so organised !! I'm jealous lol- and even though different nutes and such, it's prompted me to get out a ruler, notebook and pen to get my own one prepped- cheers,man, much appreciated. 👍 😎
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