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So I've heard alot of great things about 'blackstrap' molasses to help fatten up buds and provide improved growth and taste (sweet).  Just like a 'bud candy' (carbs nutrient) but at a fraction of the price? ? .

What's the difference between blackstrap, regular molasses, corn syrup, honey, brown sugar and just about any other sugars?

Most things I've read talk about the fermentation of the sugars being the big benefit not the sugar itself (not sure that's true, wouldn't it be alcohol at that point?).  Would dextrose (derived from corn) be a viable option?  Its fairly cheap, quick dissolving, easily ferments and available at any UBrew shop (plus I have some ? and I'm cheap). 

Also I've read to use 1/2 a teaspoon during veg, full teaspoon flower, 1/2 teaspoon during flush per gallon.  From my what I've been told, sugar is toxic if smoked(?).  Will the remaining sugars be harmful?  Taste like crap? Etc? Or is it common practice to use during flush?  Is it the same dose per gallon for all sugars?

Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this post and respond, the percy community is AAAA+ especially for cheapOs like me (lemon juice, baking soda and aloe vera are a 10th of the price and all natural ? compared to their commercial equivalent). 

 

 

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Topic starter Posted : December 14, 2019 1:08 am
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I use in last two weeks of flower only and at a dose of 1 TBLSP to 1 litre of hot water, leave it to stand for a bit then add 1/4 of that to my 4 2ltr feeds

My buds are always solid, dense and tasty but I cant say they wouldn't be like this without the molassess as I haven't done a side by side

No idea on comparisson to other natural additives as never used others

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Posted : December 14, 2019 8:42 am
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I like using blackstrap molasses, but more as a 'feed' for the microorganisms that are in my soil than as a direct plant supplement. That said, I'm not sure as to the differences in those different products... but I think it's to do with the types, forms (chemically), and amounts of sugars that are available and how easy they are to break down by the various processes that do so... Molasses is made by crushing sugarcane/beets, and boiling off the water from their juice and concentrating the sugar. When the sugar begins to crystallize, it's removed from the syrup and the left over syrup is molasses. You can keep boiling that molasses to remove even more sugar, and after the third boil (I think) the syrup left over is blackstrap molasses. I know blackstrap molasses is only approx 45% sugar, where regular (fancy) molasses is around 70%, and both have a lot of iron and other elements in there which help things along as well, compared with corn syrup or brown sugar which have that stuff 'processed' out. Those, and honey, are even higher in sugar content so, yeah, good questions... For plants directly, I suspect a little goes a long way, but it'd be worth delving into the science of that for sure.. ? ? 

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Posted : December 14, 2019 9:57 pm
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Blackstrap is the best n cheap. Also can be used as a foliar spray for insects. Powdered molasses is usually a carrier like grain that is sprayed with molasses. It’s awesome indoors but use it sparingly outside as it attracts mice n bears lol I used to use it all the time but got fooled by other products so stopped using but I am definitely jumping back on this train!

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Posted : December 14, 2019 11:10 pm
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Molasses can be found at farm feed places on the cheap. Take a container with and they fill it up for you. I paid under $20 for approx 10 litre. While you are there you can get alfalfa.

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  2. *1 - 4 cups Earthworm Castings or mature compost.
  3. *1-2 tbsp. molasses or other complex liquid sugars.
  4. *1-2 tbsp. Soluble Kelp.
  5. *1-2 tbsp. Azomite (minerals and trace elements)
  6. 4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water.

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Posted : December 15, 2019 2:35 pm
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I have used black strap mollasses on it's own and with a microbe tea and I seem to get much better results using it with the tea. When given on it's own it tends to not get used up as easily and goes alcohol/anaerobic? 

Maybe this goes hand in hand with it feeding the microbes. 

Also heard it's better for the plant when in flower? 

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Posted : April 12, 2020 11:11 pm
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Has anyone ever used honey and/or specifically manuka honey in flower? 

I have tried to research to see if there is any info online etc.... 

Just wandered if anyone has experienced any positive differences using Honey?

Or would this kill off any good microbes/funghi?

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Posted : June 3, 2020 11:18 am
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its all essentially the same mate, natural sugars. The plants and microbes eat it and use it for energy. Doesn't really matter which ones you use, as long as its natural, and 100% honey/ molasses

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Posted : June 3, 2020 11:22 am
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