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So not a full diary but just showing what’s growing on in my loft atm..

i have been experimenting with and researching soil mixing for a little while now.. 

last august I burnt my plants with my first super living soil mix and lost 8 outta 9.. I know I know but it was a stoned and lazy decision to pot em all up at the same time .. 

I was pissed but determined to crack this style of growing as it has many appeals long term especially ..

So now I have found some successes with some fine tuning..

here we have the following:

1x pre-sunk no1 old timer1 genetics (as mentioned in my seed sexing thread). Growing in my home mix peat based soil. Grown in 2L pot for 3 weeks from seed then 12/12 for 3 weeks to show sex now under 20/4 to re-veg.

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1x Lebanese land race from Real Seed Company growing in my home mix peat based soil. Same age as the above but hasn’t been flipped so still don’t know sex.

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1x Buttercream Gelato from Sensi Research seeds growing in Sohum soil (it is ahead of others and in 3rd-4th  week of flower) This was a cutting from when I grew her end of last year. She’s about a month ahead of the others.

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1x Kali Mist (serious seeds cannabis cup winner 1995 and 2000) also growing in sohum (2nd week after flip to 12/12). She was flipped early (after 4wks from seed) as she’s sativa and a long long flowering strain, 14-16 weeks. 

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1x Cream n Cheese cbd from Seedsman growing in a worm cast / perlite/ compost / life cycle dry amendment mix

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The buttercream Gelato had 6 weeks before flip and was from a cutting I took a while ago. The goal was to test out Sohum soil as a start to finish water only soil, some biosis also so far once in veg and again at start of flower.

The others all from seed sown a couple weeks later. They are testing out 2 home soil mixes which use all the same ingredients (most from indoor organics) except one uses coco the other peat.
These are up against a mix of 1/3 perlite 1/3 worm cast 1/3 compost plus 150g life cycle amendment

and up against the sohum.

not a true test as all diff strains but will show how long the pre-loaded food will last each plant.

the pots used are 20L felt style 

the plants were all started in 2Lb plastic pots.

this is an a organic water only grow with the exceptions of biosis (a microbe labee tea), maybe some molasses and/or frass to feee microbial life, a top dress will be applied before the others fip to flower in about a week.

I will add the home soil mixes in due course when / if I’m happy with them.

The main goals of this is to explore soils and strains and see what I can learn to take forward.

All Q’s and comments welcomed 

happy growing ya’ll

Time to pop some more beans 😗

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Topic starter Posted : March 6, 2021 7:46 pm
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Have moved to flowering positions under 2 x 240w migro leds (1 with 10% far red)

scroggs put in position and light flipped to 12/12

Would have liked to veg a week longer on the Old Timer1, Lebanese and Cream n Cheese but logistics dictate otherwise ..

so into flower we go..

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Buttercream gelato (3-4 wks into flower)

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Kali Mist (2 weeks into flower)..

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Cream n Cheese cbd start of flower..

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Lebanese day 1 flower (no scrog or training )...

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And the Old Timer 1 genetics ...

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Time to pop some more beans 😗

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Topic starter Posted : March 8, 2021 8:58 pm
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Healthy, Happy looking plants man, You’re liking the Arays?

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Posted : March 8, 2021 9:43 pm
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@rufio yes bro loving the arrays 👌

 

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Topic starter Posted : March 9, 2021 2:41 pm
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@chillbert  Maaan... that Kali Mist. I haven't seen that in years. Reminds me of high school and the 90's. Nice bro

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if you don't try it, you won't know...

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@wanderluster have wanted to grow it for years but always though it impractical ... I’m more experienced and patient now I hope lol

She was a favourite of mine way back and I’m hoping this one will take be back there 😉

will let you know in about 15 weeks lol  🤞 

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@chillbert Haha.. yeah man. Those 15 weekers must be rough, bro. But she'll be worth it. Maybe when I finally learn how to grow and get a little patience I'll check out a few old time faves... I hear the Dr. Grinspoon from Barneys is also like 15=19 weeks but crazy groovy. Someday I want to check that one out. Have fun bro. Cant wait to see the progress Smile  

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@chillbert loving your style mate im researching soil blends at the min too mate for my yard beds,building from scratch, soooo much to learn and then some lol. They all look really healthy mate nice work 👍 loving your set up too good choice on lights mate you have good taste 😉  check out Horizonal Soil System on future cannabis project its leighton morrison setting up a bed for peter. His idea of why you should have silt,clay,sand and rocks in your set up is really intresting man. Will look forward to seeing the end result POTM Fist Bump  

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Posted : March 10, 2021 10:42 am
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@3plantspete haha yeah I seen Leighton’s ‘horizontal’ system 

he’s a passionate dude who knows a lotta stuff and likes to talk about it too lol

just this morning I bought a 50L tub to biuld a little one for my conservatory cucumbers 

check out what @SpartanGrown does .. similar with a pipe fitted vertically so you fill reservoir in the bottom.. keeps soil top drier which helps with gnats etc 

as I loft grow I’m weary of using very large pots (weight is important) but in my garden and allotment I use a more authentic living soil approach.

thanks for the tip and good luck making your own soils up 👍

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Topic starter Posted : March 10, 2021 12:30 pm
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Old Timer 1 skunk hermied so is now compost !

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i had sexed her previously by going 12/12 then flipped back to 18/6 to reveg... this obviously didn’t go down too well with her, or him? Or both lol

what is amazing though is it has produced whole seed already ! On the lower bracts where the first pistols and calyxes appears by the stems.. in less than 3 weeks ! This must be due to the light hour changes back and forth I’m guessing?? 
the pic in my hand is a seed! 

never mind but was really looking forward to some old mix genetics !

hopefully the Lebanese will be female.. I haven’t subjected it to the same treatment and atm is looking a beautiful sativa specimen!

more space for the rest now so there’s always a positive somewhere.. sometimes you just gotta look a bit harder to find one lol 

onwards and upwards people 👍

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Topic starter Posted : March 14, 2021 12:46 pm
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Update: 

my beautiful Lebanese land race is just a very good looking fella 😂😂😂

A stem rub revealed a beautiful hash smell just like pollen presses hash which I was so looking forward to... lucky I have another on the way who as yet is still a girl 🤞

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Here is the Buttercream Gelato (Sensi Research Seeds) at end of week 6 in flower. 
Grown in 20L of Sohum, water only, 1 x biosys at week 5

Looking a little short on food to go the last 3 weeks left so have mulched pot with 1” more sohum and we’ll see how she goes..

 

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Topic starter Posted : March 20, 2021 8:17 pm
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@chillbert that sohum seems to be the job. Plants look beautiful man.

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Kai Mist wnd of week 4 of flower 

grown in 20L sohum water only diet plus biosys on 2 occasions ao far 

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Time to pop some more beans 😗

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Topic starter Posted : March 22, 2021 7:29 pm
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Question for the soil guys, When making up soil, as in pre loading with dry amendments. 

Do you wet it? How much and how often? 

Do you seal it or let it breathe? And how often do you turn it over? 

Thanks 

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