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There seems to be quite a bit of this on FB/YT etc. people claiming not to be held to law of the land & claim common law applies to them...usually when they believe they do not have to accept fines/deal with debt collectors etc.

This guy knows his shit...and has vids for a lot of cases you may encounter, take a look at his videos

 
Posted : December 16, 2021 9:45 pm
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@zn love this type of shit wicked vid 

 
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Yer this free man on the land thing, interesting, but smells like fishy bull shit lmao lol


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Just another crank IMO

 
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The concept is fairly easy to grasp but to go through with it is complex, you have to completely understand what is involved before embarking on reclaiming your sovereignty. Its not as simple as saying fuck this shit I'm free. If you have a car a house, loans , health card, anything that you use or has your name on it is a contract you have to hold your end up on or there are consequences. If you one day say hey bank I am done paying this loan I am a free man and my own master. The bank will fuck you. If you argue with a cop about being a free man, the cop will rake you through the coals. It begins at birth with the birth certificate, if you have one the process is long and complicated to reverse it. No lawyer is going to help you. YOU have to know how to do it for yourself. 

But its not impossible. This documentary is a must watch. This man and family actually did it by learning Law. Lives off the land free from government rules and regulations BUT, he is on his own. When you officially leave the system, you are no longer protected by it.  What if situations are endless in contemplation, but seeing this guy actually do it is really empowering. I have a friend who did a 1 on 1 study with this man and he is now in the process of removing himself from the system officially.

 

Again its not easy, complicated and takes A LOT of research. But at the end of the day IS possible.

They key is acting like a sovereign individual. He doesn't flaunt his freedom, he is too busy living and homesteading. 

 
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The reason the argument won't work because you can't use it in an argument. Becoming free individual has to be done on your own accord with as little amount if feather ruffling as possible. What I mean is most people who use this I'm a free man on the land no master argument is using it as a defense against something they see they didn't do wrong. Let's use a parking ticket for example. You get one and want to fight it so you go to court and cliam your free live by natural law or the law of the land. First the judge or officer 99% of the time has no idea what your talking about with different legal systems and sovereignty. So off the bat you'll like like a nut job. Second if you pay insurance on your car, you're not free from the laws and regulations of the road, the insurance is a contract ( as is a car loan) that you -by law- have to uphold your end of the contract. 

Third- if you use this as a defense  and only know the bare minimum of the topic..you will be raked against the coals for trying to show up a judge or officer

To fight the parking ticket. Admit you were in the wrong or prove it was wrongfully given by using the same system of rules and regulations that are being forced on..this is not claiming your free but being responsible about the situation.

It will ONLY work if you, the individual, knows the legal system through and through, knows the lingo and  has no contracts. This means no insurance, no loans, no drivers license, nothing that has your LEGAL PERSON CAPITAL LETTER NAME ON IT. This should express how difficult it is, but not impossible. In the documentary I shared the guy fights a speeding ticket. But it was a long and painful process, but because he spent years studying the legal systems and how it all works he beat it. 

Anyone interested please watch that documentary. Very enlightening. But to summarize my rant

Its not impossible, but it sure as fuck isn't easy, and comes with a lot of sacrifice, 

The question may arise, then what's the point? The point is you are free, its not a palace of jewels and some rainbow dreams cape. Its the harsh reality of living off the land and fending for one's own self. To some this is THE dream to others its a nightmare.

 

 
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@zn The Black Belt Barrister  is great, lot's of good info.    and these common law nut jobs belong back in the magna carta era 

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Posted by: @billy420bonds

@zn The Black Belt Barrister  is great, lot's of good info.    and these common law nut jobs belong back in the magna carta era 

Yeah, the Magna Carta that has almost been completely repealed LoL  

 

 
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Posted by: @billy420bonds

and these common law nut jobs

Lets try not to use offensive terms like that mate. Some of these arguments do have some grounds, are are based on inalienable human rights. Its not easy to have a discussion about these things when you use language like that. I would say more misinformed people than nut jobs. That stops people from being offended and allows a polite friendly discussions to take place. Ad hominem attacks do not win any arguments mate


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and these common law nut jobs

Lets try not to use offensive terms like that mate. Some of these arguments do have some grounds, are are based on inalienable human rights. Its not easy to have a discussion about these things when you use language like that. I would say more misinformed people than nut jobs. That stops people from being offended and allows a polite friendly discussions to take place. Ad hominem attacks do not win any arguments mate

The European Charter for Human Rights covers everything we need.   maybe nut jobs was too much.  but trying this stuff in court can lead you to being having a harsh treatment and you will lose.   you can challenge everything in a court of law anyway, you dont need common law. 

Fight The Draconian Cannabis law's..... Fear is Control..... Set yourself free.......Grow your own.

 
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