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Natural Farming techniques (aka KNF)

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Anyone tried any natural farming techniques?

(as made widely known by Chris Trump who learned the natural way fromKorean farmers and applied this to his family’s farm in Hawaii with great success)

Videos are all on utube. Along with others who’ve used these ways of feeding or super-charging their soils health.

It seems like a big ‘rabbit hole’ but I’ve started chipping away at it.

Ive stated with a simple one: FFJ or Fermented fruit juice

in this case fermented banana juice as it’s specifically for making plant available K (potassium as required in large amounts late flower) using bananas and brown sugar. 

Equal weight chipped bananas (inc skins) and brown sugar. 

Mix well and ferment 7 days then strain.

Application is 1 tablespoon per gallon.

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5 bananas and 500g brown sugar

(cost £1:50 or $2)

I used it this eve and will update progress (or not lol) ...

Will be looking at making other elements of natural farming soon. 

All thoughts / comments welcomed 

Time to pop some more beans 😗

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Topic starter Posted : February 4, 2021 8:34 pm
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its one i'm wanting to explore too, its all organic gardening and using what you have available to you and feeding the soil microbes. I'm not sure how much potassium can be got from this method but the sugars will defo help in flower. i'll be keen to know if you see any difference or not, keep us posted Thumbs Up  

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I’ve not use this method but I’ve seen several new growers come here to Percy’s with problems after applying banana tea to their plants (probably over applying). Obviously you’re not a new grower Chillbert and you are going to be careful but this isn’t really a technique for new growers with no experience. On the other side of it it will be very interesting to see someone with a bit of knowledge try to use this technique and see what happens. Tuned in and watching this experiment with a hope for a positive outcome.

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I made a juice out of fan leaves once, it seems like a great idea, just need to dial it in and according to some vids it's hard to over fertilize but I'd go light to start.

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Posted by: @monkeydo

I’ve not use this method but I’ve seen several new growers come here to Percy’s with problems after applying banana tea to their plants (probably over applying). Obviously you’re not a new grower Chillbert and you are going to be careful but this isn’t really a technique for new growers with no experience. On the other side of it it will be very interesting to see someone with a bit of knowledge try to use this technique and see what happens. Tuned in and watching this experiment with a hope for a positive outcome.

Haha problems after banana tea!! now you tell me ! Lol lmao

I did do my due diligence and am aware of issues people have had.. 

the banana one doesn’t surprise because it’s the easiest (and quickest) to make (and it’s for chasing bigger buds lol) 

So to start I’ve just tried it on one plant and will observe.. 

pretty sure I’ve not over applied as it’s fk all in 5 galls.. 🤞 

as a syrup it smell way better than you’re average pk 

be interesting to see if banana flavour will go into the bud lol ?

Soil can influence the flavours in wine and other crops...

what happens in producing small scale wine... the fruit tones in the wine come from other fruit grown in the vineyards eg peach / apple/ nectarine etc 

will my weed taste like nanas?? 

Prob not but fun thought anyway 

 

Time to pop some more beans 😗

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@chillbert, what the shelf life? 

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Posted by: @chillbert

what happens in producing small scale wine... the fruit tones in the wine come from other fruit grown in the vineyards eg peach / apple/ nectarine etc 

 

@chillbert Well you learn something everyday, i love a good glass of wine and never new that. I knew the quality of the soil effected it but not what was grown around it

 

 

 

 

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Posted by: @woodi2

@chillbert, what the shelf life? 

In the video I watched he said it was stable and can be kept in a jar on the shelf for months .. not sure exactly how many months ! ??

However if made in small batches this should be fine for small scale use 

I made about 330ml which @18ml (1xtablespoon) per gallon that’s about 18 gallons worth so I won’t have problems using it up before too long if its use proves successful ! 👍

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Haha! I have started down this rabbit hole after listening to spartan talk on the pod cast.

Have ordered some dry. Amendment and am going to cook me some bokashi super soil.

I'll post my recipe I come up with for some feed back when I work it out

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Banana tea update...

have used for last couple of weeks with no noticeable issues... can’t say whether it will have had any effect on yield but might be able to assess flavour differences between a plant fed with it and one without of the same genetic (twin clones).. 

anyway at the doses stated above I had no issues fyi

will report on the taste test in due course 

 

Time to pop some more beans 😗

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Topic starter Posted : February 18, 2021 11:17 am
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Posted by: @chillbert

but might be able to assess flavour differences between a plant fed with it and one without of the same genetic (twin clones).. 

In my Canna vs Sohum LAPK grow, the Sohum 2 taste soooo much better than the Canna 1 Smile

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but might be able to assess flavour differences between a plant fed with it and one without of the same genetic (twin clones).. 

In my Canna vs Sohum LAPK grow, the Sohum 2 taste soooo much better than the Canna 1 Smile

Very interesting ! I am testing sohum atm and there’s definitely something very good about it compared to other premixed soils.. it kicked my first home mix alternative out of the park.. my second attempt at mimicking it is much better though still not as good (initial performances at least and during veg only so far)

sohum has one ingredient mined in Mexico if I remember correctly which I think could be their ‘special’ ingredient alongside the spot on ratios of nutrients / microbes etc 

the perlite factor is definitely a factor - it enables the plant and environment to process water faster than conventional or typical soil based mixes..  making it more like watering/ feeding coco ! So no long weekends away with sohum unlike ‘soil’! The 2nd biggest disadvantage after price possibly. Other than those sohum has many more than 2 benefits and certainly seems to make feeding super easy... 

Stoner ramble for the day ... now where did I put my spliff down ??

Time to pop some more beans 😗

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Well I think there is still a lot of nutrients left in the Sohum as no yellowing at all at the end...so I bought some Eco Thrive Life Cycle to give it a bit of a boost, along with Charge & Biosys Tea (Yes, I do like this brand...good shit) and not massively expensive like some

www.ecothrive.co.uk/catalogue/life-cycle_33/

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