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Gonna start a 2021 Grow Log in Soil/Autos soon, but in the mean time I thought I’d share an planned indoor experiment with you, make mistakes w the Post and find out WotN0t2Do before the serious Grow Logs start.
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Cleaning out a cupboard during Lockdown #1 and I found some of the Bag Weed seeds I gathered in the early ‘90s. Back then I used to pop 50 at a time, discard runts and then transplant the biggest 6 seedlings to a Phototron, but there was an extended tail to this collection programme, as my homies carried on collecting for me.

I’d insert a photo, but that’s not working for me right now!

They must be Jamaican, because we was buying weed from West Indians back in the day. Some seeds were in a baggie, others were lying around loose in the drawer. Been kept in the dry and the dark, but temps must have fluctuated from around 0 C to 30+ C. I’ve picked out the broken, pale & small to leave around 100 prime brown speckled looking ones. Thought I’d try to germinate say 15, and see if any pop.

Yes, I know the Seed Merchants all say they’re dead after 3? 5? years. But “they would say that, wouldn’t they?”. Yeah, but I grow heritage tomatoes and chillies, and their seeds are very much smaller than a cannabis seed and they’re designed to go thru a bird’s digestive system before being “planted”. I’ve assumed the MJ seed is designed to do the same isn’t it? Hence “Scarification” neh? Anyway I’ve managed to get 10 yo tom seeds to pop, so why not a 25 yo C seed?

I’ve got 100ish, so 15 isn’t a big sacrifice – I’ll see what happens & report back w fotos or “Nope! SMs are correct ☹”.

If any do come thru, I plan to “Bonsai” them, keep it/them in shallow soil and HST them to the max!
I also fancy a Male for breeding purposes. Mate him w a Stitch V2.0 and attempt to acclimatize the off-spring to this country.

Also during the clean out, I came across 2 packets of seeds from Nirvana, one of “Holland Hoop” and another of “Shiwa”. Last went to the ‘Dam in 1999, so musta got them then. (I don’t really remember much about the trip <giggle>) 15 in each packet, the Merchants were very much more generous in those days! Holland Hoop/Hope is designed for a N.European grow, so that’s a plus. I’m currently working w a “Shiva” at Work, so I’m certain the Universe is telling me something! Same as above, I’ll see if any pop, and bonsai them if they do. Maybe this yr or ’22. A Hoop/Ryder hybrid is coming out from a Dutch Breeder soon/now I understand, so that’s another breeding path I could take. 😊

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Topic starter Posted : February 2, 2021 9:05 pm
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@eyez00 Welcome to Percys man! Nice experiment mate you have grown these seeds out  before? 

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Popped some Mexican bag seed from the 80’s in the early 2000’s successfully so it’s worth an attempt. 

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@eyez00

greetings bro and good luck getting growing again 

a tip you may find useful when trying to germ old seed (other than scarification):

if you soak some dried legumes (any beans seed) in water 24 hrs they release some hormones (or something similar) which aids germination of seeds in general.

Strain off and use this liquid to soak your old  bag seed 12-36 hrs til seed cracks or soak 12hrs then transfer to paper towel .. whichever method you prefer to complete germination.

I have tried this once and all seeds germinated. They weren’t 20 years old though, some were maybe 10 years old. 

I heard this from Kevin Jodrey (Cannabis legend from USA) on future cannabis project btw

good luck with it and be great to hear if it helps if needed 

Time to pop some more beans 😗

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Posted : February 2, 2021 9:22 pm
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Hi Eyes00 & welcometo Percys although I have deja vu and seem to remember doing this already, lmao...

I've germed 25 year old seeds for someone and they worked fine, never found out if he got anything out of them though but they were 2 weeks old and green when I left him to it Smile
Got to be worth a try...good luck, will await results as I too remember the Jamaican seed weed, lol

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Posted : February 2, 2021 9:43 pm
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@macky Grew them in a Phototron. Small machine that aimed for a “3D” grow. I liked it (still have it, converted to LEDs) but “proper growers” laff at it.

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Topic starter Posted : February 4, 2021 2:14 pm
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@monkeydo Thanks for the encouragement. I assumed everyone would laff and say “They be dead!” 😀

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Topic starter Posted : February 4, 2021 2:17 pm
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@zn 👍👍👍

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Posted by: @eyez00

“proper growers” laff at it

Proper growers understand that everyone has their own way of doing things 😉 Sounds like youve been on facebook too much bro, they are horrible batsrds out there. Just come to Percys to talk about weed mate, we are PROPER GROWERS  who are always high on our home quality home grown weed, so we are not dicks like them "ProPeR GroWeRs" on fB that cant grow for shit lol 

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Posted : February 4, 2021 2:18 pm
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@zn I will try this. I grow “Trail of Tears” beans and jar up the excess, so have plenty. 😀 Thanks for encouragement!

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Topic starter Posted : February 4, 2021 2:19 pm
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@macky 😁

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Topic starter Posted : February 4, 2021 2:21 pm
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Posted by: @macky

Just come to Percys to talk about weed mate, we are PROPER GROWERS  who are always high on our home quality home grown weed, so we are not dicks like them "ProPeR GroWeRs" on fB that cant grow for shit lol

Tell him Macky LoL  

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Posted by: @macky
Posted by: @eyez00

“proper growers” laff at it

Proper growers understand that everyone has their own way of doing things 😉 Sounds like youve been on facebook too much bro, they are horrible batsrds out there. Just come to Percys to talk about weed mate, we are PROPER GROWERS  who are always high on our home quality home grown weed, so we are not dicks like them "ProPeR GroWeRs" on fB that cant grow for shit lol 

The first set up I had for a flower tent reminds me of what you mean when you feel they would laugh lol

Note I never ended up flowering her in this makeshift, ended up being a veg partition lol

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Posted by: @eyez00

@monkeydo Thanks for the encouragement. I assumed everyone would laff and say “They be dead!” 😀

Welcome man, there is no judgement here for sure, I am growing outside in the rain the now😂 no one laughing at me🙈 but they probably should 😂

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The first set up I had for a flower tent reminds me of what you mean when you feel they would laugh lol

I’ve grown in a box that a water heater came in, actually did a decent job of it but a proper setup makes life so much easier. As long as it works .. no laughing at success

I remember when the Phototron came out and I so wanted one but at the time it didn’t make sense for me. Somehow I know it didn’t work as magical as they made it out to be. The ads were like .. you will always have bud, harvest whenever you need some, never run out again.

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