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So I was looking at local dispensaries as i could use some more before my grow comes in.  The zookies i got last is dried out at the dispensary because they dont store their product well, so its a no go.  Found a dispensary in town that says they use living soil rather than hydro.  Nice.  So i looked through their menu, and it was all new (to me) strains.  OK.  Part of me appreciates that and part does not.  The part that wants medicine that works is the part that does not.

I'm fairly sensitive to strains.  One strain will hit me in the wrong way and another the right way.  The first time i got legal weed i went and got some strains to try.  Mostly not so great.  Next time i did some research and looked up recommended varities and picked up a number again.  A little better.  Some time later i looked to re-up and the strains available were almost all different and i had to do the evaluation all over.  After trying them I found 1 that i really liked - Strawberry Diesel.  Next time around it was nowhere to be found in the entire state.   Research again?  F.

Choices are nice.  Not being able to get the same medicine a few months later is not.  Having to spend a good part of a day looking up strains becomes a pain by the third time around.  Part of my reason for growing.  

Looking up the strains online that the shop carries, i noted that leafly has over 6000 strains in their database.  And leafly does not have them all.  It just seems to be way beyond what I want to deal with.  I find 26 types of yogurt in the grocery to be too many (as long as they have the one i want 😉 ).  I think many dispensaries & growers must feel overwhelmed too. 

Perhaps there is a push to find the next big strain.  Perhaps its all marketing hype: (there are really only 33 strains that keep getting repackaged 😄).  If i owned the genetics to something like White Widow, and could sell seeds for $10 a pop, less $ for a bulk pop or clone royalties, how much would i be pulling in?  Maybe they arent so concerned with medicinal consistency.  There is a big push to be the one to establish one's self in the new industry.

Landrace strains have been stabilized over generations.  Grown to fit the environment and people's tastes.  Some of them are really nice. I possibly could medicinize with 2 of them.  Not that i have to stay at 2 strains, but having a stable medicine base will mean that i can go back to having fun trying things instead of having to work at finding what i need yet again.  Plan to test that landrace theory over the next year or 2.  I really liked Thai sticks back in the day.

There are a boatload of tomato hybrids out there.  My favorite is an heirloom variety.  Brandywine.  Deeelicious.  And ... if you plant the seeds from a Brandywine tomato you get a Brandywine tomato plant.  My guess is that the Burpee people are not so fond of those characteristics.  I'm not so fond of paying $10 for 1 seed (or $10 for 1 gram of bud either).

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Posted : January 15, 2023 8:48 am
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Posted by: @davetg01

My favorite is an heirloom variety.  Brandywine

Not a bad choice, also in my top 5. Very unusual and unique flavor but very low shelf appeal with its weird shapes and skin. Purple Calabash is also lovely with a nice sharp tang that’s perfect on any sandwich. Some of those heirlooms have the best flavors compared to lots of today’s hybrids. I’m sure lots of growers here have thoughts on tomatoes as well as cannabis.

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Posted : January 15, 2023 3:42 pm
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I suppose it is a much better variety for one's back yard.  Course there is the view that a person cannot actually buy a real tomato in a store.  Garrison even said so.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6sNxUoNRV_A

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@monkeydo I grow tomatoes each year myself. I have noticed that those huge, almost pumpkin like, tomatoes are very popular in the US. Do you also grow the small cherry tomatoes ?

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@toploader Yes, I do occasionally grow cherry and/or grape tomatoes. The plants produce such vast quantities that they quickly become more than I can handle. Sweet millions is one variety that comes to mind. Planted about a 10 meter row of them one year and had enough to feed the neighborhood eventually abandoning them and letting the woodpeckers and squirrels have them. The years we grow them now it’s one plant and that’s sufficient.

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Posted by: @monkeydo

I’m sure lots of growers here have thoughts on tomatoes as well as cannabis

Cherokee purple and Nebraska wedding are my all-time faves.  Nebraska Wedding is a deep, golden/orange/yellow with an amazing and slightly floral flavor -- it is delicious! And of course, Cherokee purple has an indescribable "deep" flavor.

NEBRASKA WEDDING A
tomato cherokee purple

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Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand, And Eternity in an hour.
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Posted : January 16, 2023 2:37 pm
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Growing tomatoes is how I started getting into hydroponics a few years ago before growing cannabis was legal in Ontario.  I figure I'd make all the mistakes on the way up the learning curve with that before venturing into a higher value crop.  Last year I progressed/regressed (depending on how you look at it) form hydro to living soil for both cannabis and tomatoes and the soil definitely won on quality and taste while hydro can produce a lot more if you do it right. 

My favourite last year was a Black Indigo which is a bit larger than a grape size and they were incredible!  I've also grown a couple varieties that were selectively bred at the university of Florida from hundreds of different heirlooms with the intent of creating the best combo of taste and ease of growing.  They were called Garden Gems and Garden Treasures, a small and medium sized, respectively.  They were tasty, but now that I'm a few generations deep from the original seeds I received they are loosing their touch a bit.  I imagine the same might happen with a lot of these new cannabis strains that if you start making seeds with them, they would start to diverge in all sorts of directions of the genetics they came from.   

To @davetg01 point about consistency, I have found the same thing for medical use, I used to go back to my licensed medical provider and they'd rarely have the same stuff in stock a few months later.  It took me a couple years to really nail down what strains worked best and which did not.  So now I grow my own.  But even that is a lot of trial and error to find out what ones work the best.  

 
Posted : February 3, 2023 3:42 am
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@gworton  Thanks for the response.  Yep, a lot of work to keep finding consistency for meds.  I feel for people who dont have the ability to pursue growing their own. 

I made the trip up to the dispensary a few days ago.  Picked up small amounts of 4 strains to try - 2 sativas and 2 indicas this time.  For me, one indica is fair to poor (sleep was degraded), the other bad (left me in a really off mood).  One of the sativas is quite good.  Havent tried the other sativa yet.  I still need a night-time strain.  Think i'll take a look at the trochomes on what i have.

Good thing about this dispensary is they grow their own plants with living soil!  Buds felt different - more like actual plants.  Good scent. Vape was smoother & tasted nice.  

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Posted : February 3, 2023 5:41 am
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Trichome state

Indica that reduced my sleep - milky & clear, 50/50.  No amber

Indica that put me in a very off mood - mostly milky, a few clear, a few amber (5%)

Good sativa - milky & clear 70/30.  Amber not seen.

Sativa i havent tried yet - 15% amber, rest milky.

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Posted : February 3, 2023 6:21 am
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