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So! Here we go, welcome to Mackys Jack Herrer Grow Diary! This is the grow diary for the Seedsman Jack Herrer grow off.

Jack Herrer is one of my personal favourites, I have grown the Seedsman variety before, and it was incredible. When Seedsman asked what strain we would like to have in a grow off, this had to be our top choice.

I’m looking forward to seeing everyone grow some of their own, it is a very enjoyable strain to grow and smoke. Your going to love it!

Let’s get down to business, and talk about how these seeds are going to be grown.

Lighting

Invisible Sun LED Light Used, ISH 480

Invisible Sun, specialise in horticultural LED lighting. They are the UK’s number one supplier of high range LEDs for growers.

The ISH 480, is a model of light that spreads across a length of 89cm, and 56cm in width. It has amazing coverage, ensuring all corners of your tent can get the light it needs.

This is perfect for growing cannabis in a screen of green (scrog) as the footprint of the light is much greater and delivers a much better quality of light, not only to more places at the top of the plants, but deeper into the canopy too.

With a 450w draw from the wall, but an output equivalent to a 800w HID light, we should see the ISH 480 perform well!

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The Equipment

Though the ISH 480 is best for a 1m x 1m tent, I will be flowering the Jack herer, in a 1.2 x 1.2 (4 ft x 4ft) grow tent. This is because i will be scrogging the plants, but leaving ten centimetres space around the edges to avoid the buds touching the walls.

I will be using a standard 5 inch RVK extractor for my extraction, with a carbon filter. There will be fans in the grow tent too to keep air well circulated.

Medium and Nutrients

I’m going to grow the Jack Herrer in Canna Coco Professional, and use the Canna Range of nutrients. I have been growing in coco, and using canna for a while now, and always had great results. So this will be my chosen method for this grow too.

Medium, Canna Coco

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Always a quality medium, pre treated and ready to grow in. If coco isn’t treated properly before using it to grow cannabis, you will suffer with Cal/Mag deficiencies early on. CANNA coco, has already been treated, and buffered. This is my prefered medium, and what I will be using for this grow.

Nutrients

Though I have used many different nutrient ranges, I have been using CANNA for my last few grows. I figure, if they make the coco I always use, I should try their nutrients too. I have been impressed with the results, and the price of CANNA.

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Additional Nutrients

I like to use a silica additive from around week 3 in veg, up until week five in flower. This helps keep the plants growing strong, and healthy. My favourite brand for silica is Buddhas Tree Solar Green

Also, just incase I might need to top up the cal mag to prevent a deficiency, I have Vitalink Cal/Mag.

And of course, to help with adjusting pH level, I have pH up, and pH down.

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EC and pH Meter

You can’t underestimate the importance of accurate pH and EC, so I have good reliable meters. To measure my pH, I have a Blue Lab pH Pen, and for EC, I have the Hanna Groline EC Meter.

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Jack Herrer, The Strain

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The Jack Herrer strain was named in honour of the late cannabis activist, polemicist and author of the all-time classic “The Emperor Wears No Clothes”. It has become established as something of a classic marijuana strain itself combining as it does the out-there euphoric, cerebral effect of a pure sativa strain with the resin-producing qualities of a pure indica. It was originally created by Sensi Seeds by crossing a Haze with a Northern Lights #5 x Shiva Skunk cross.

Seedsman Description
BREEDER/BRANDSeedsman
GENETICSOriginal Haze x Red Skunk
VARIETYIndica / Sativa
FLOWERING TYPEPhotoperiod
SEXFeminised
THC CONTENT20%
YIELD350-450 gr/m2
PLANT HEIGHTup to 175 cm
GROWSGreenhouse, Indoors, Outdoors
FLOWERING TIME9 weeks
HARVEST MONTHOctober
EFFECTEuphoric

The Plan for the Jack Herrer Grow Off

I plant to grow these plants for their whole lives under the ISH 480. The light is intense, but I think if I leave a good distance between the plants and the light, the plants can gradually grow into the light, and not be stressed too much.

I would really like to see, if it’ll work. Maybe it’ll be too much, and the ISH 480 is a strong light. But I have to try it, the type of light given out by the ISH is far better than any other light I have, so I want the plants to be used to it asap.

The plan is to let 4 x Jack Herrer grow to the third or fourth node and then top them. They will be fed on just Canna A and B, with the occasional bit of Rhizo, and a small amount of silica.

After the plants have been topped, they will be trained for a week or so, to get into the right structure. The will then be trained into the screen, and veg until around 2/3rds of the screen is full. At this point the plants will be flipped to flower.

There will about 2-3 weeks of ” the stretch“, the plants will be trained throughout the stretch, until flowers begin to form. I will lollypop the plants and this point, level off all of the branches for a good even canopy, and then let the plants flower.

The plants will be harvested probably past their expected date, as I like to have a little bit of amber trichomes on my buds.

Updates

I will be updating the dairy here, a few times a week with pictures. I will also be making videos of the progress once a week for our youtube channel.

If anyone would like to grow along with me, you have links to everything you need in this post, so feel free to click and buy from the links provided.

Germination

Here are the seeds:

Seedsman Jack Herrer Seeds, germinating Jack Herrer

5 of Seedsman Finsest Jack Herrer. I will be popping four of these.

They will be soaked for a few hours n water, and then planted straight into coco.

Should see a shoot with in a couple of days.

jack herrer seeds soaking in water,

They are soaking as we speak. I am now going to prare some coco in the posts, and plant them.

Next update will be done later this evening, when they are happy in their new home.

Good Luck Everyone!

Just want to say, good luck everyone, I really hope you enjoying growing the Jack Herrer. It really is a quality strain, that you will want to grow again and again.

Big shout out to Tom at Seeedsman too, for giving us the oppurtunity to run this aweosme grow off. Rememebr, they was not only geneorus enough to provide us with free seeds, but they will also give a €250 vouchers to the best dairy at the end of the grow off!!

Entry is closed!! No more can enter. I have sent all addresses to Seedsman, and your seeds should be with you already, or on the way.

Have fun everyone!

49 Comments
  1. Trimmed the top off these pots today, they were stopping the fan from getting to the lower parts of the plants, so snip snip. 

    things are coming along really nicely. Stupidly fast, I am going to get the screen over them in the next few days, I think they are ready for it already! 

    They are absolutely flying! 

    Jack Herrer Seedsman

    You might be able to see that I have done some training today. I hate training the old school way ( string ) when using fabric pots. Its hard to find a good stable anchor point. so i like to use these things called ” bends”. You can see them in this pic:

    training with bends

    Great little things, but they can easily break stems, and take practise to use. These things will stay on until the branches become  more wooden, if i take them off before then, the branch will snap. 

    When you take them off, it’s like the branch is super cropped too. Hated them at first, but with some time, we have grown to be good friends and i think i need more lol 

    Haven’t fed today, giving it a day to settle and let them stretch them root into the new medium a bit. But back on daily feed from tomorrow. 

    Just incase you were wondering, right now the feed is:

    Canna A and B: 1.6 ml Per litre Each
    Buddhas Tree Solar Green: 0.4 ml per litre
    CAL/Mag: 0.4 ml Per Litre
    Rhizo: 0.8 ml Per Litre

    This gives me an EC of 1.26, ph at 5.8

    Next update, will be the screeeeeeennnn!!!!! Moving fast with this grow! Hope you all enjoying the show!

  2. Posted by: @zn

    bathroom fan for extract

    pmsl!! same 

  3. @macky

    Lmao…same 60×60 with a 300w CFL and a bathroom fan for extract 🤣 

  4. Posted by: @scottishmac

    you might have me with this fan

    don’t worry mate ill take it out when the screen goes in to make it fair 😉 lol 

    It all looks nice, but I started in a 60cm x 60cm, and a shitty light and fan. just upgraded over time lol. One day you might have your very own am o2 as well lmao 😉 

  5. Beautiful Macky! 

  6. @macky
    Dyson eh? That thing’s probably worth more than my whole setup. 🤣 🤑 
    Lookin’ real good tho mang. Squat little units like mine too – should make for some thick bud.

  7. fuken lovely mate lol you might have me with this fan though my shitty hps wouldve beet them ish but not with that fan man that cheating now like gotta be 😉 🤣 🤣 🤣 

  8. Time for an update, and things are going really well 🙂 

    Roots were growing out the bottom of the pots again, roots grow quick when you use rhizo. So I decided to get them in their final pots now, let them settle and get some training done. 

    This mean they need more space, so they have been moved into the flowering tent. 

    They won’t be flowered for a while yet, but im prepping them for the screen asap! Here is a quick video of how they are coming along:

    feed is 5ml per 3l for canna a n b
    1.25 ml of Silicone per 3 L
    And 1.25 ml Cal mag per 3 L

    EC comes up to: 1.26, haven’t checked the run off yet as they need a couple of days to settle in the new medium for it to be accurate. 

    Ph going in at 5.8. 5L each until i got run off from the first feed. Im sure it will be less next time 😉

    Ill be leaving them again, every other day for waterings, jus to encourage the roots to grow a little faster then back onto daily waterings. 

    Im hoping to have the screen mounted by the next update. Eager to get it up, but it’s not time yet lol. 

    You can see as well, i have the pots raised, this is to make it easier to get the runoff out. Once the plants are in the screen, there is no moving them, so you have to prepare for this. Another reason why i had to move my tent today, I need access to the sides to properly train. 

    Its a mission, but i know it’s all gonna be worth it when that screen is full of fine jack herrer flowers mmmmm 

    Long one, thank for reading 🙂 

     

     

  9. Posted by: @idealbatch

    Unsure whether to stick with canna professional

    yer man, ill keep you informed mate. I’ve had no problems at all with Canna Coco, awesome medium. But you gotta try these new things right 😉

    Usually im against the use of perlite in coco. Tried it before, didn’t really seems like ti was worth it and have used 100% coco for a while now. Lets see how things go 🙂 

  10. @mackyThat eco thrive new coco I got last time I went, like you I though nice one is already mixed with perlite and added microbes. But I didn’t really think I just used it like I would the pro canna coco that’s pre buffered. And it fried my seedlings. I only fed them ph’d Water with the tiniest bit of root stim. I’m sure I run water through the pots after to check the ec and it was too high for seedlings? Probably user error though haha. Sure it was the same stuff 😂 was brilliant for transplanting my bigger girls but let me know how you find the coco 👍🏻 Unsure whether to stick with canna professional.

  11. Got some new coco today!! Went grow shop to get some canna coco, but saw that new shit, by eco thrive, coco, 30% perlite, with microbes added n shit for better root growth. 

    Heard about it a while back, and knew it was coming at some point, so had to snap it up!! 

    Think ill be putting the Jacks in this, but im gonna test it on my Cindys first lol 

  12. Well, I fed the girls at 1.0 Ec, and thought I would check the run off EC, and see where we stand…. 

    0.5…..

    Yer they are hungry lol. More a n b in tomorrow’s feed, im happy with how much cal/mag they are getting. 

    Ill see how they look tomorrow before i decide what they will get in the feed 🙂 

    This is the beauty of growing in coco, you’re able to monitor the feed like this and know what your plant is lacking. A nice boost in A n B will make her much happier. 

    Ill let you all know how it goes 🙂 

    Oh and BTW, i know I said they are hungry, and they look yellowish in these pics, but they have a nice healthy shade of green, just the ISH 480 is a monster lol. Ill get light off pics for the next update 

  13. Ok. They plants are doing well, but they are getting hungry now. 

    I always keep the feed low, easier to fix an under fed plant than an overfed one 😉 And they are asking for more now

    The feed has changed. 

    I mix nine litres of water, at 18-20c

    I then add:

    Canna A n B, 10ml of Each
    Cal Mag, 5ml
    Rhizotonic, 5ml

    This brings my EC up to an even 1.0, they have previously been held at 0.8 

    I will be monitoring the EC from now, to see how the plants are eating. They could maybe do with a little bit more A n B, just to get some extra nitrogen in there. 

    The Grow Tent:

    Jackherrergrow

    The two at the back are auto colorado cookies, the smaller ones on the outside, are Cinderella Jacks. The Jack Herrers are in the centre of the tent. As you can see, they look a bit hungry, but not as yellow as this lol. Under the light they look a lot lighter than they are under natural light. 

    Jack Herrer 1

    Jack Herrer 1

    Doing Lovely, no complaints at all, really coming on nicely after the topping and growing faster than expected. 

    Jack Herrer 2

    Jack Herrer 2

    She seems to be suffering more from the lack of food more than the others. She is showing sing of cal deficiency i think? I have upped the amount of calcium, and we will see if there are improvements over the next 48 hours. 

    Jack Herrer 3

    Jack Herrer 3

    She is my favourite, but don’t tell the others lol 

    Jack Herrer 4

    Jack Herrer 4

    Doing very nicely as well. Such a lovely strain to grow 

     

    I think within a couple more days, training will begin, the side shoots are already growing out nicely. There will be no defoliation, only training. The plants are getting a lot of good light, and the more leaves they have, the more it can use this light. I don’t do a trim until closer to flowering time if it is needed. For now, make use of what the plant has, leave it on, and train the plant. 

    If there is no improvement on number 2 after 48 hours, i will look into the EC levels of run off and feed, and see what the potential problem could be 

    Thanks for reading everyone, hope you’re enjoying the show so far!

     

     

  14. @macky
    Well there’s plenty of width but height might be my problem with the one at 20″ inches now. The other one is 15″ and should be ok. I should of wired the bigger one down. But I wanted to try my first without the LST and wiring them over. Though I have been giving them the bend behind the inner nodes. Next time I’m topping at 3 nodes again or 4. My smaller one that I did top at the 3rd looks really good with branches reaching out every where inbetween (in the middle) the main stems. 

  15. @whispererofweed

    Prepare for them to triple in size after the flip mate. Hows the space in the grow room looking? 

  16. @macky
    So Macky. With my two Mexican Haze sativa’s, one being at day 53 almost to the full 8th week and the other one at day 41, tommorow makes 6 full weeks. Do you think I should go ahead and switch them over to flower or try and stretch them a few more days to get the smaller one a little bigger, it was topped at the 3rd node. The bigger one was on the 7th node. Yesterday it was 21&1/2″ in height and the smaller one was 15″. I’ve been getting anywhere from at least an inch a day if not 2″ in growth some days. 

  17. They are on the fourth mate, I did notice at the end that it wasn’t mentioned lol. I dont even check any more really, they get to a certain size and im happy. Topping, then training. Just gotta leave them for a week or so to grow them shoots out….. but these jacks seem fast, so maybe a few days lol. We shall see. 

  18. @macky
    Did you top them at the 3rd or 4th node? I don’t think I heard you mention it in the vid. 
    With my first grow and 4 plants, two sativa MH and two GG autos. I topped them all at different nodes, from 7 down to 3rd. To see what I can get away with when it comes to height. I only have 7ft ceilings. 
     
     
     
     
     

  19. Another video update, with a cameo of some autos lol

    They are doing well, not bother from the transplant, growing well so i thought it would be a good time to top them. 

    Feed is still the same. For every 3l of water, i use 2.5 ml and Canna A, 2.5 ml of Canna B, and 1 ml of cal mag. 

    They got some rhizotonic in yesterday feed too, just a ml per 3L. They are looking lovely. I’ll be introducing the buddha tree solar green next week. Maybe start training soon too 🙂 

  20. @macky
    checked out the YouTube vid this morning bruv 🙂 you’re almost monetized on YouTube yeah? I’m not 100% what their cannabis policy is for ads though but I know I have seen ads on cannabis channels for sure

  21. Looking pretty good bro i will do mine tonight or tomorrow i think dropped seeds in water last night putting them in towels today lol 

  22. Well, everything is coming on really nicely!! This light really does make a difference to the way the plant grows compared to HID and other LED I have used. The structure of the plants are perfect, great internodal spacing, and will be bushy, you can already tell. This is going to be an amazing scrog lol

    Anyway, transplant day. Roots are growing out of the bottom of the pot.

    At this stage, I will transplant the plants into bigger pots, but not massive yet. I do one more transplant with photos, at around a week before I flip them. As these will go into a screen , they will go into bigger pots a little sooner. So i’m going to give them maybe three weeks in these, then transplant into their final  pots and start getting them into the screen.

    Feeding them the same, just more water now for bigger pots. Did a big feed on these as they were freshly transplanted. 

    2.5ml A n B per 3 litres

    1ml Cal Mag per 3 L

    Little bit of Eco thrive (about a 1g per 3 litres) in the water to get some microbes in there for the roots to live with. 

    And that’s about it.

    Be topping them very soon i think, maybe a week. Lets see how they do 🙂 

  23. @macky

    Lol…yeah obviously, no 6 month monsters 🙂

  24. But dont take the piss 😉 lol. we don’t wanna see you veggin in 6 months lol. A normal grow 🙂 5-6 weeks is enough usually 🙂 We have other grow offs to do you know Ned 😉 Youre gonna need space for the next one lol 

  25. @ned

    Nope…veg as little or as long as you like…I tend to do 4 weeks from first node

  26. Looking good! I’m checking that mail everyday! Hey is there a rule or guideline for how long we veg? 

  27. @macky

    Lol…psychic…I put a sprinkling about 2/3rd of the way down the pot…hope they like it 🙂

  28. @zn

    yep lmao, but got some eco thrive ill be using on the pot up 🙂 

  29. @scottishmac

    Probably ran out 😉

  30. AnB an Cal Mag? Why? No rhizo? Explain lol

  31. @monkeydo

    Yer man im surpisred tbf. Thought they would have been hit harder then this. It is definitely a bit too much for them, but its worth them getting used to it early on 😉 

  32. Looks on point. Seem to be taking to the light well. 

  33. Things are going very nicely. The plants are forming a nice compact structure, which tells me they are getting plenty of light lol

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    Three litres of water gives them plenty of food.

    In this 3 ml i put 2.5 ml of and and B, and 1ml of cal mag

     

    They seems happy…. nearly transplant time already!

     

  34. They are coming along nicely Brother 

  35. Damn! Mine just popped out of the soil… I’ll catch up though, just you wait. 😎 Looking excellent though mang, excited to see this IS crush it.

  36. Makes me wish I had the space to play as well. Maybe next one though 

  37. Looking great! I can’t wait to get them and my photo poll prize

  38. Looking good mackers

  39. So, with the end of week one, nothing has really happened, but they survived the ISH! 

    I had them around 5 ft away from the light initially, and they stretch badly. I took them out of the pot, and reburied them at a decent height. They seem to be well settled now. 

    The light still seems a bit strong, but I would prefer them to get used to it asap, and start booming in growth lol. 

    jackherrerweek 1

    To feed them, I get 3l of water, and add 2.5ml, of A, and 2.5 ml of B, ph the water, and feed. Right now i’m doing this every other day, to try and encourage root growth. 

    Another week or so like this, and they will be ready for transplanting. 

  40. These girls stretched!!! Which tells me im too far away from the light, that’s good, it shows the seedlings can handle it, its just about finding the best distance now. 

    I took the seedling from the coco, and re buried them deeper as they were like 2 inches tall. I’ll get a video up tomorrow of their progress. They are now much closer to the ish, lets hope its not too close. Maybe 3 ft now 

  41. Here they are!!

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    Took the lid off about an hour ago for the first time to be greeted by these happy babies. 

    Now they sit in the shade of their 3 big sisters, about 5ft away from the ISH 480, lets see how they do…. Im hope they don’t get fried lol 

  42. Can’t wait to receive the beans. I have made room for them so I can start them right away. 

  43. As I await patiently for my JH seeds. I see now the bar has been set very, very high for the grow diary.Nicely done macky excited as hell to watch this👍🌱

  44. Ok, threw together a video of me planting the seeds, its late, so its dark, lighting isnt great but i did what I could lol. If any of you’ll want to add some youtube vid to our channel then let me know we find a way to get them on too 🙂 

  45. Pulling up my seat I cant wait to watch this one. 

  46. BRING IT ONJust kidding, haha. Nice setup as always mang, excited for this one.. 😀 

  47. Heck yes!

  48. @bobdurban

    Front row seat for you sir! I hope you enjoy the show 😉 lol

  49. Wow Macky ya legend, im watching this!!!

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